Yesterday I ordered a Kindle Fire, 1st gen. Once I get it, hopefully I’ll be able to fix the remaining issues. But it will not happen for several days at least.
The biggest problem on Kindle Fire is that the touch input in the game is off by some distance from the point where the screen is actually touched. Bad, bad, bad. So I made a speculative fix. It may or may not fix the touch problem. Actually I have pretty low confidence that it will, but it’s the best I can do without a physical device.
I have built a test debug APK file for you to try out and tell me how it’s doing:
If you want to help out, please download the apk from the link above, install it and tell me (email candyrufusgames at gmail.com or add a comment to this post):
- Is the touch shifted (the debug APK will draw a yellow cross at touch point to help you with that)
- What are values of ClientBounds and Viewport (displayed yellow in the top left)
- What is your device – please don’t forget that bit. I am most interested in Kindle Fire 1st gen data, but other devices may also be useful.
If you don’t want to use it, please don’t download. My bandwidth is limited, too many downloads will kill it quickly :-) Other than the fix and debug text, this APK is identical to 1.18.2 Demo Version found on Google Play, nothing new to see there.
Btw. to install it you will need to allow installation of apk’s from unknown sources in your device settings.
Thanks!
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Would the information from a Windows phone be helpful? My phone is the HTC HD7 and its one of the first generation phones. Just want to make sure if you could use my information before i download.
Oh and also how do I install it onto my phone?
You can’t install it on Windows Phone. It’s Android package. But thanks anyway :-) I don’t think it’s possible to manually distribute Windows Phone apps outside of the marketplace, the system does not allow that.
You can distribute apps on WP7 by giving them the .xap file. The only problem is that only develops can download it.
True. Forgot about that.
I happen to have dev unlocked Samsung Focus, in case you ever did want to have a Windows Phone test group or something, I would totally help with that.
Kaalus,
Can you make video of electricity?
When it’s ready, yes.
Boy it must be heavy on your wallet. Having to buy all these devices.
Glad to see you’re so committed to fixing these problems though.
It would be better if you just focused on the devices that already work and add features to the program instead of wasting time trying to please everybody.
What I mean to say is, finish up electricity and whatever else you wanted to add, then go back and fix problems with specific devices. I’ve heardly touched the game because there’s nothing drawing me back to it at this point. Not everybody’s device will work, focus on new generations and not older hardware.
The demo has 50 one-star reviews in Amazon App Store due to these issues with Kindle Fire. And they are well deserved reviews. I took a gamble releasing it without getting the Kindle first, and it backfired. I need to fix it ASAP.
I suppose, however you could just tell everyone that it doesn’t work on Kindle Fire and that a fix will come out in the future.
Sure, I can do that in my Most Helpful Favorable Review on Amazon
Sorry for the attitude. I really do like SC I’m just frustrated right now. I understand that you want it to work on most devices and I was being selfish. I apologize.
No problem Nathan. Thanks for the review by the way. Is it the top one on the paid version?
You dont need to apologise to me or Kaalus. As we all understand how you too can’t wait for the next update. And if you didn’t love the game so much you wouldn’t be on here voicing your frustrations. We All Can’t wait Buddy.
Yes the paid one
Sorry Nathan I don’t agree Sc is already a great game that has been updated very often and just recently, we all can’t wait for the next update be we should understand that the more devices it works on will give Kaalus more income and in time give him more time to focus fully on the game maybe allowing him to employ some to help out. The success and continuation of the game is what we all wan’t. If you have a buisness that makes money but you stand still and don’t grow, this will lead to the demize of that buisness. your not wrong wanting more of the game, but we all must be willing to let him create a very good income too. Sorry Nathan it’s not a disgrement with you rather than an understanding of the games needs. Again sorry to sound Harsh.
What’s the point of increasing income if he has to buy every device available to make sure SC works properly? BTW Brian why do you post so much on these forums? Don’t you have anything better to do?
And more importantly if the device you are using for SC is only 2% of the market would you want him to give less importance into fixing the problems you may have with the game. i for one realise that wp7 for instance may end up being a smaller part of the games market, but i would not wan’t him to leave me hanging. Whilst everyeone else gets help.
Same I have the WP7 and wouldn’t want kaalus to “leave me hanging”
Sorry for my second post Nathan. But I have the games progression foremost.
Brian, would you mind running the apk on your Kindle Fire? I’m not sure which one you have, but it’s either a 2nd Gen Kindle Fire or Kindle Fire HD if I remember correctly?
yeh it’s the second generation kindle fire (not hd) and yeah i will give it a good try out tommorrow and get you some feedback via email, must say though i have found very little wrong with the game on that device. Happy to help.
Hey Kaalus i’m programmer like you and i learn that you can’t please anybody so if you want fix Kindles devices go ahead and don’t worry about the stupid boys that the only thing they want is electricity and they think is just press a button and all is done
You have all my kind
Cheers
Kaalus.. keep up the good work. Btw I’m on kindle fire and its running fine for me. Love the game
Hi Skyler. Would you mind running the apk from the link above? Which Kindle Fire do you have?
Hi Kaalus, I have a first Gen Kindle. I only got to use it for 2 or 3 minutes but that apk was pretty close. The left side of the screen was spot on but the right side was off by about 3mm. The curser was a tiny bit to the right of my finger on that side. But if I didn’t have the yellow cursor I don’t think I would have been able to notice. If you have more questions let me know. I’ll mess with it again in the morning and see if I notice anything.
Hi Nelson. Thanks for the info – very useful. Can you also please give me the values for ClientBounds and viewport displayed in the top left? On your Kindle, are the touches shifted on the version without the fix (i.e. the one from the market)?
cb = x17 y0 w989 h580
VP = x0 y0 w1024 h600
ok, so I messed with it a little more. The crosshair on the right side is off by about a quarter inch to the right and the whole thing might be up about an eighth. Makes it hard to click the right side buttons at times but the market version is even worse. Clicking on the button won’t even register, you have to click to the left of them. So I can see some anger issues for that.
Also, due to the kindle menu bar at the bottom, the top of the screen is cut off a little bit. I included some pics. Hope they open up.
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5228&authkey=!AOcJRU97rZYPces
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5227&authkey=!AFAzaEpL_QVqp6Q
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5226&authkey=!ACtNSuM0l4ojgwk
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5225&authkey=!AJ9NsHvtFIp6Y0A
Remember I had a stylus. This might help more:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5233&authkey=!AOD80n2jyPQhASo
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5232&authkey=!AO_Se1_Ekld-JT8
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5230&authkey=!AICQmpbcULlpJoE
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=3CEC7B125831C3EF!5234&authkey=!AC-S7Wi7biV_-30
Big thanks! Now we are getting somewhere, I love hard data. This stuff is more complicated than I thought.
Okeu kaalus,
Do you know any day or time when electricity is ready? And i wait 1.19 , you fix error 404 :-D
I’m going to guess that electricity will not be ready for a while since it is a very complicated feature and Kaalus is also working on fixing android problems
Me and my SC buddy beleive it may make a full appearance around the end of December, Don’t quote me though.
hello I of on ran on set fire to trees a high grass of a board of animals glitches didn’t notice everything well (а ещё я русский – and still I of Russian).
I to you have kaalus a question -you will add in game saplings for wheat and a hunger strip after all a half of affairs already is for this purpose made animals appear through a period, the high grass already is from it in principle and saplings should drop out it was necessary to add a hunger strip if you write the answer that throw to me on a g-mail besrezen612@gmail.com
I would love to have some sort of method as in minecraft that heals you over time but you do have to replenish it. A hunger bar would be awesome to have in Survivalcraft.
Kaalus,
The problem with the touch may just be hardware problems with the Kindle Fire. I’m afraid that they might just not be fixable :(
It could also be a problem from increasing the display size of the game for the bigger devices. I’m no programmer but this may be the cause.
I’m too young but survivalcraft is a great game
No one is to young for survivalcraft Cody and your spelling is much better than many on here including me.
Hi Kaalus hope this is what you need to confirm difference.
CB X0 Y0 W 1024 H 600
VP X=0 Y=0 W= 1024 H= 600
again the positions of control is perfectly positioned. The cross hair is directly in middle of the Touch.
Looking at nelson’s pic’s especialy the second one really does show the difference between the two kindle fire’s. that or those issues do not exist on my wifes one. I mentioned an update kindle in the kindles Device settings, would that have the relevant cure or update. on my wifes one there is no update available.
Yep, thanks! 1st gen view seems to be shifted and scaled, 2nd gen is perfectly in order.
Do the next generation fires have that dumb slide up menu on the bottom of the screen?
Yeh but is on the top rather annoying, as a simple menu button on UI would be sufficient.
How to make four hearts instead of six?
That is, I have 4 hearts, as do six of hearts?
He just changed the amount of hearts you see but you still have the same amount of health as before.
hows the electricity going?lol im excited
I went to an AT&T store today to get the new Lumia 920. While I was there, I found the demo app of survival craft installed on a Samsung Nexus Note II. I went over and tried to play it (despite the fact that I have the full version) but when I started the app I got a pitch black screen. I tried again but got the same outcome. Hopefully this information will be useful to you.
Hi. Thanks for the info. Are you sure it was a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (no nexus in the name there)? According to my data the game works fine on Notes. Median session length 3.2 minutes. I doubt thousands of people would be staring at a black screen for over 3 minutes :-)
Yes it was probably the Samsung Galaxy Note II, but I can only remember that it was a Samsung and was a Note II. The black screen may be because of the slightly different OS installed or because it needed to be rebooted. By the way, Survivalcraft works beautifully on the Lumia 920. 😊
Hmmmm..
I don’t know?
But SurvivalCraft works fine on my Galaxy Note II…!
I see Note 2 is the best phone I have used it..
So my game file totally locked up on me, must have been 35mb. No version info or name is show and it wont load. Game runs other worlds just fine. Anyone else have this problem?
Hi all!
Guys ,say me please
Recently i descovered that what i can play with keyboard and mouse..
But that’s not what i was counting.
How i can tune control????
This game Gizza is not on PC. if that is what you were meaning
Hunger pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasssssssseeeeee. This game needs something to move you out of your house
I was playing the walking dead and i thought about Kaalus. Hopefully he doesn’t show up as a zombie in my game because i can’t get an autograph that way.
I think the circuit Kaalus built will toggle the lights on and off and on and off over and over.
Hey kaalus can you add pigs