Survival

In the upcoming 2.2 update I am planning to make the game more realistic and more difficult in survival modes. So far I’ve told you about the tools/weapons system overhaul. By the way, I am reading you comments: stone arrows and stone spears will not be removed:

Stone Tip Arrow-1Stone Spear-0<– Yay: back from the dead!

The new change I want to talk about is potentially big: in Challenging/Cruel/Adventure modes you won’t be able to place blocks unless standing on something.

No more jumping up and quickly placing blocks below you to build a tower and escape all danger. And to build something tall, you will have to either construct ramps or use ladders/scaffolding. Challenging. Cool!

Again, this is only for harder survival modes. Creative and Harmless will work the same as before.

This is a significant change. It has potential to make the survival aspect of the game more interesting. It will be harder to build shelter and harder to escape predators.

I need your input on the details:

  • Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?
  • Do you think placing blocks while riding (a horse or a boat etc.) should be possible?
  • Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible?
  • Can you see any unforeseen, big problems with this whole idea?

Thanks for your thoughts!

135 Comments

  1. KireLord
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 15:58 | Permalink | Reply

    Swimming and place blocking: No
    Block place while riding horse: Yes
    Block place.whole standing on creature: Yes

    • KireLord
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 15:58 | Permalink | Reply

      While*

      • Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:16 | Permalink | Reply

        Wait a minute, does that mean you can’t jump and place a block below you (pillar jumping) to create a pillar to easily get to places? Oh dang…

  2. groserl
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 15:58 | Permalink | Reply

    Please add ability to creating and sharing modifications like words or textures.

  3. Nathan Hohnberger
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:00 | Permalink | Reply

    I would say not while swimming or on horse back the rest I would not change

    • Nathan Hohnberger
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:01 | Permalink | Reply

      Most importantly though there would need to be a way to build up with like you said scaffolding.

      • Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:06 | Permalink | Reply

        You still can build up: place a single block then climb it, then place two blocks next to it and climb them etc.

        • Nathan Hohnberger
          Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:12 | Permalink

          Ok that works to!

        • Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:17 | Permalink

          Lucky! It’s such an honor to be replied by the man himself. I bet he won’t read this comment tho.

        • ElissonPO
          Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:22 | Permalink

          Speaking of realistic things, I don’t think the use of diamonds is realistic. I should use something else instead as STEEL would look much better and could create a harder recipe to make like finding a specific carbon for steel making. Another excellent serious thing would be a poisoning and disease meter on the menu. It would be very helpful to know how your health is.

        • Basil
          Posted December 13, 2019 at 04:03 | Permalink

          Kaalus could you fixed the cruel mode because i can simply respawn by downloading the contents of my previous saved world before i die….and is ruining the game purpose..

  4. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:01 | Permalink | Reply

    -Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?
    Yes
    -Do you think placing blocks while riding (a horse or a boat etc.) should be possible?
    No,not realistic
    -Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible?
    Yes,kinda realistic
    Can you see any unforeseen, big problems with this whole idea?
    I think that this change should only affect the Cruel mode,the challenging one would be too hard (flu and sickness already make it too hard),so maybe ok for this feature in challenging but however you remove being sick by eating something roten/too often in challenging,seem balanced?

    • Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:05 | Permalink | Reply

      we should be able to place block while riding a boat,but not a horse

    • KireLord
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:11 | Permalink | Reply

      I disagree, challenging is exactly the same as cruel except you only have one life at cruel. Challenging is for those preparing for cruel. So the whole idea, should be in challenging as well.

  5. KireLord
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:08 | Permalink | Reply

    In a foreseeable update, maybe add block falling? Maybe block falling only for challenge/cruel. You know, makes it harder and you can’t place floating blocks.And to make a wall, you have to start from the bottom and build it up rather than from the top to bottom.

  6. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:08 | Permalink | Reply

    Yes Kaalus I agree. I think placing blocks must only be possible while you are standing on block and not other creatures or fluid. Speaking of survival challenges, I would like your thoughts on punching wood with your bare hands. What do you think about that?

  7. Grigory Aleksin
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:09 | Permalink | Reply

    I think it should be possible to place blocks while swimming: it would be quite useful when working underwater or when trying to get out of the water. However, placing blocks when riding a horse/boat or standing on another creature is a bit too unrealistic. As a side note, if we are moving towards more realistic construction, would it be possible to add cave-ins of buildings or underground tunnels? I mean it would be pretty interesting if caves or buildings, that were too hollow or that lacked supporting pillars of some kind, collapsed on you. It would also means that players could not just build a flat horizontal platform in mid-air (without supporting pillars) to avoid predators.

  8. RGpro 17
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:09 | Permalink | Reply

    you have to take platforms like rafts to build there (it’s the most logical if you rely on realism)
    putting blocks with the horse is fine, your idea removes realism, better implements new survival techniques, placing blocks in animals is something unrealistic since the size of the box of each animal varies in your database and this could cause damage to the structure of the game, and while you swim you should have a rope type that is attached to a block to put rafts there as a base to build

  9. Daiele Dias
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:10 | Permalink | Reply

    I think placing blocks while swimming should be possible. I take the opportunity to ask you to be able to put stairs and slabs underwater, that would help a lot!

  10. Jonas D
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:10 | Permalink | Reply

    Swimming: yes
    Boat: yes
    Horse: yes
    Other creatures: yes, but the animal will get mad and hit you

  11. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:12 | Permalink | Reply

    I don’t know about anyone else but flint knapping sounds cool for the tools overhaul. I can’t stop imagining how cool it would be.

    • Loopy Doopy
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:10 | Permalink | Reply

      Yesssss! That would be a nice addition to the update🐸👌

  12. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:13 | Permalink | Reply

    *Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?*

    Yes. It is currently difficult to build on water, this limitation it would only bring problems

    *Do you think it should be possible to place blocks while riding (a horse or a boat, etc.)?*

    Yes, except when riding. In a boat it is useful to build in the water. Why make it more difficult if the character is slow and weak in the water?

    *Do you think it should be possible to place blocks while standing on another creature?*

    No. I have no problem with this being added, I have never placed or built riding a horse or a rhinoceros …

    *Can you see big unforeseen problems with this idea?*

    This depends a lot on what you want to limit … I think that what would most affect is not being able to place blocks while swimming or in a boat.
    I’m sorry if my English is bad

  13. Shadow Lemon Panther
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:13 | Permalink | Reply

    I know everyone wants this game to be realistic but it doesn’t have to be insanly humanly realistic, so chill, Kaalus.

    • KireLord
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:15 | Permalink | Reply

      What makes Survivalcraft different from Mincecraft? Realistic.

      • Shadow Lemon Panther
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:23 | Permalink | Reply

        I know, I even suggest elements that supports it. But it doesn’t have to be exactly like in real life, so placing blocks underwater shouldn’t be a problem. If it had to be the case, the consept of blocks shouldn’t even be there.

  14. Timo Sanders
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:16 | Permalink | Reply

    This is a bad idea, I think it will just become annoying, especially when chopping trees. To get all the wood logs, I am practically forced to “tower” up like that, to get the branches and higher logs. Otherwise I have an ugly floating tree. Towering up like that is impossible to do when being chased anyway, unless you’re lucky. It only works for maybe at night, but then again, digging a hole and hiding does the same thing.
    In short, I’ll support the idea as long as something is worked out with the trees, tree chopping is annoying as is given their size, this change would just turn me away from challenging mode altogether. Maybe have it where cutting the bottom log removes all logs in the tree, and each log removes takes durability on the axe. This sort of thing could be made to only work for the axe. This would also very nicely fit with the realistic theme here, as floating trees are far from realistic.
    Sorry for writing such a long comment, just wanted to share my opinion. And yes, I hate chopping trees. Haha

    • KireLord
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:17 | Permalink | Reply

      I have an idea for chopping trees. When you chop from the bottom, the rest come crumbling down.

    • KireLord
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:19 | Permalink | Reply

      I just realised that’s exactly what you said. Nvm.

    • marcoff73
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:20 | Permalink | Reply

      I like the new system.
      But that is right, the floating tree is ugly and not realistic. Maybe this is what should be changed.

    • Muhamad Auni
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:45 | Permalink | Reply

      Making it too realistic making the game quite hard, eventually people will stop playing. Plus the day and night time only last a few minutes. You cant do much in a day. The rain that happened very frequent, the food that didnt last longer, also the clothes cannot prevent cold from the rain, evetually you have to find shelter and the day waste just like that.

    • Loopy Doopy
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:15 | Permalink | Reply

      I feel like Kaalus would add a mechanic were the tree will fall down if chopped. Tree Capitator Anyone?

  15. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:17 | Permalink | Reply

    Wait a minute, does that mean you can’t jump and place a block below you (pillar jumping) to create a pillar to easily get to places? Oh dang…

  16. marcoff73
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:17 | Permalink | Reply

    Thank you for reintroducing stone tips. I appreciate it.

    So, my comments:

    Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?
    -yes, it’s fun to build something underwater and it is anyway already difficult to do it.

    Do you think placing blocks while riding (a horse or a boat etc.) should be possible?
    -Maybe not, but I don’t see it very important

    Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible?
    -yes, why not.

    Can you see any unforeseen, big problems with this whole idea?
    -not at the moment

  17. queq99
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:17 | Permalink | Reply

    No for all except swimming.

    Also can we get wind/blizzard audio on top of mountains big K?

    • K Y
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 22:53 | Permalink | Reply

      Wind Audio on the mountains and leave Rustling in the Forest would be really nice! Good idea!

  18. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:18 | Permalink | Reply

    The biggest problem I can see is rejecting the idea my casual players. But I think you should make this change anyway.
    Placing blocks while swimming or standing on another creature should be possible. Btw, swimming in SC is hard.
    Placing blocks while riding shouldn’t be possible, it’s unrealistic.

    • Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:25 | Permalink | Reply

      You may want to add “Custom” mode with possibility to check/uncheck some features.
      For example, like weather effects, rotting food, sickness and etc. The more the better. As you can see from comments under this post, some people hate one feature, others hate another.

      • Adrian Caban
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:32 | Permalink | Reply

        I completely agree with this “custom” survival game mode. I feel that Harmless and Challenging modes are too different in difficulty.

      • Dull Bananas
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:56 | Permalink | Reply

        Good idea

  19. Tom Fryers
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:21 | Permalink | Reply

    My view is that in all of those edge cases, placing blocks should be allowed. One thing to bear in mind: I think that you should be able to place blocks when auto-jumping, because I don’t think there’s any way to exploit it and you’re still on the ground, really. It’s more similar to walking than jumping or falling.

  20. Adrian Caban
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:30 | Permalink | Reply

    On the topic of Harmless and Challenging modes, I think they are too different. Harmless is very easy even for new players but Challenging mode is a big step. Maybe there can be a solution to this problem?

  21. Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:31 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus colocar blocos em pé sobre outra criatura deve ser possível ou quando mota num cavalo ou barco não deve ser possível
    Mostre mais coisas antes do tempo esgotar

  22. A Nice guy
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:42 | Permalink | Reply

    I found this more realistic than before

  23. Dull Bananas
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:55 | Permalink | Reply

    I think placing blocks when swimming should not be possible. Placing blocks when standing on a creature should be possible. Not sure about placing blocks on a horse or boat though.

    I think being able to place liquid while you are in the air should be allowed.

    • Dull Bananas
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:58 | Permalink | Reply

      Actually, I think it should be possible to place blocks underwater, but only if the blocks themselves are placed in the water.

  24. Jonas D
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 16:59 | Permalink | Reply

    To be quite honest I hate the idea.

    • Dull Bananas
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:02 | Permalink | Reply

      Use harmless mode

      • Adrian Caban
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:05 | Permalink | Reply

        Harmless mode is too easy and boring. Challenging is sometimes frustrating with all the animals just out to get you, and it will be made harder if chopping trees are not allowed with towers.

      • Alternate Person
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:08 | Permalink | Reply

        That doesn’t solve the issue. Being forced to switch to a lower difficulty just for quality-of-life features isn’t the right solution.

  25. Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:00 | Permalink | Reply

    Unless you do something about the floating tree branches and leaves, please don’t. It is hard enough to cut full trees as it is.

    Otherwise, it may make some sense to be forced to build a temporary structure if you want to build a tall tower. It also makes sense when it makes climbing mountains harder, as you cannot place leaf blocks under yourself anymore.

    Swimming: Yes. Otherwise building bridges might be too hard in a game where water already has death as a second meaning.
    Riding: No.
    Standing on another creature: No. But be careful with it. I am thinking that maybe stingrays and other fish could unpredictably get under you and prevent you from placing blocks.

    While we are at it, I think that digging under animals and players should be disabled at least in cruel.

    Unrelated: Could you please make it so that motion detectors detect piston and piston-powered movement? I was shocked to find they do not. Also, maybe pickable items’ movement (e.g. flying projectiles) should be detected too.

  26. Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:05 | Permalink | Reply

    I think you should be able to place blocks while riding and swimming.
    Also, I do foresee this breaking some adventure worlds. I think this should be optional in adventure worlds.

  27. Alternate Person
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:11 | Permalink | Reply

    Personally, this just sounds like an inconvenience. It would make escaping predators harder, but at the cost of being able to build easily at all. I always pillar up while building frames for houses, and this just sounds like a ton of extra work to get the same result.

    • Stanimus
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:19 | Permalink | Reply

      You can still double-pillar. One of your scaffolding, one of your building blocks. It’ll just take twice as long and be 4x riskier.

  28. Stanimus
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:16 | Permalink | Reply

    Falling into water is potentially deadly enough now. Often the ONLY way to get out is to place a block to climb out onto. Without this, we may as well just rage quit every time we fall into water. If he could swim more than 60 seconds before drowning or getting eaten, it might not be so critical to get out asap.

  29. HorseLuvver
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:19 | Permalink | Reply

    I think this is a good idea overall, but I think what we need is what another person said, about the custom game mode. Placing blocks while swimming, riding, and standing on another creature should stay.

    On another note, I also really liked what someone else said about gravity. In my opinion, that’s one of the most unrealistic parts of the game. I get it would not be easy, so don’t feel obligated to do it with 2.2. Just an idea for a future update. 😁

  30. Franz Ritter von Liszt
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:28 | Permalink | Reply

    please add rails and trolley

  31. Stanimus
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:32 | Permalink | Reply

    Oh. Placing blocks while riding an animal – perhaps. A good mount should be amenable to any player action that doesn’t threaten it.
    While standing on an animal (who stands on animals?!?) – probably not as they shouldn’t be stable enough.

  32. Лердн 2050
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:35 | Permalink | Reply

    will there be an improvement in electricity? I propose an element that can transmit electricity without wires.there is an input and an output, each one has a 16-digit code, if it matches the second, then a signal is transmitted to the second. transmitted through the block and from all sides. I think it will greatly simplify the construction of many mechanisms.

  33. Marc Frank
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:42 | Permalink | Reply

    Have there only been 2 big features mentioned already? Tool overhaul and new terrain generation. Is the increase in inventory slots a big change? I hope there is another feature. ;)

    I’d leave all the block placing abilities you asked about in the game, they are possible IRL and useful.

    Does the change include not beeing able to sneak up to an edge and placing a block next to the floating block you are standing on? That is one useful case I use.

    • Marc Frank
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 14:36 | Permalink | Reply

      well, this could be the 3rd big thing
      i guess it’s quite difficult to detect the different states and allowing block placing or not
      sorry

  34. Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:44 | Permalink | Reply

    This idea is very cool, but I find it a bit exaggerated. To compensate for this hype, how about you add a wall climbing system. I think: you can scale any wall 2 blocks high, but if you jump you can scale a wall of 3. I think it would be very cool this system, would make it more realistic and cool along with the system you mention in this post. sorry english i’m from brazil and the translator is not very correct

  35. Dull Bananas
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 17:45 | Permalink | Reply

    I think you should put this in a separate “hard” mode

  36. Tee Ron
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:01 | Permalink | Reply

    I find this idea to not add challenge, but waste time. First of all, cutting down trees is now going to be a pain since we can no longer pillar up the trunk to get all the branches without having to extend horizontally to build up more. Secondly, a better quick shelter is always to dig into a mountain or a hole. Never building a tall one block tower. I just feel like this is a not needed feature. However if you are going to add it, make cutting down trees more realistic, so we don’t have to climb them.

  37. Chris Drake
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:03 | Permalink | Reply

    I would keep the possibility to place blocks while you’re riding or swimming just for the sake of Gameplay, instead i would suggest to reduce the “range” of placeable blocks while riding or swimming to make a good compromise between realism and gameplay.

    At least i agree to remove the possibility to place blocks when you’re at the top of another mob (with the exception of boats) and I’m glad about Stone Spears and Arrows!

  38. Edgar De La Luz
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:26 | Permalink | Reply

    nope definitely not … the ideas in the placement of blocks damages realism … possibly it would be good for the creative mode that if …

  39. Ricardo V.
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:30 | Permalink | Reply

    I think none of those placing blocks ways should be changed on the update, but if you want to change some of them, I understand.
    Kaalus, please keep the split screen multiplayer on all platforms, even if lan and online multiplayer will be added. It’s very useful for playing on Android TV Boxes, tablets and PCs with bluetooth gamepads, for example. Please, keep it!
    Swimming should be added to go faster on water, with swimming animation on 1st and 3rd person views. And, crouching animation should be a added to 3rd person view.
    Thanks!

  40. Noah Peterson
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:33 | Permalink | Reply

    Chopping trees down would be very annoying.

    Also I just wanted to ask if you could add a (FOV) field of view setting, as a person who plays all games with the option on max, it feels so constricting when playing SC, When your used to playing like I am, it literally feels like your looking through binoculars while your playing, even just having the ability to put it up a little bit I would be very thankful for. Thanks for reading!

    • Noah Peterson
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:40 | Permalink | Reply

      And I beg you to add decaying leaves after trees are felled. MP too maybe? :p

      • Alternate Person
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:59 | Permalink | Reply

        There is a field of view setting, I forget what it’s called, but there are 3 options: narrow, normal, and wide. It’s a bit limited, though.

        There is also leaf decay, you just have to be more thorough in destroying the logs in a tree. Check your floating leaves, there are probably some logs in them.

        • Noah Peterson
          Posted December 9, 2019 at 03:44 | Permalink

          um well, when i get trees, i get every last log, nothing happens
          I’ll have to try the FOV stuff

  41. Sandy Overton
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:35 | Permalink | Reply

    I feel placing blocks while swimming should be allowed
    Placing blocks while riding a horse or in a boat should be allowed
    Placing blocks while standing on another creature is okay? What creatures are you talking about?

    I also feel pillar jumping should be allowed.

    One more thing. You said their might be a creep factor? Could you please tell us what you mean by that?

    • Sandy Overton
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 15:42 | Permalink | Reply

      Another thought, after reading what others have said, I think you should leave things as they are concerning these three options. Making the game more realistic (which I feel is pretty realistic as it is) can make the game too difficult for players like myself. It is challenging enough now, which I love, but adding more, or taking away things to make it more “realistic” I feel it will make it too difficult and take the enjoyment out of the game. I have played this game and the original since almost the very beginning. I Love this game. Please don’t tweak it too much, making it too difficult to play anymore.

  42. Leinad Yllek
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:36 | Permalink | Reply

    Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?

    yes

    Do you think placing blocks while riding (a horse or a boat etc.) should be possible?

    yes

    Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible?

    yes

    Can you see any unforeseen, big problems with this whole idea?

    no i do not. still think MP would be super cool! :D

  43. Edgar De La Luz
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:40 | Permalink | Reply

    to climb? !!! … it would be good to apply them on some objects like the lianas of the wet trees

  44. redphone243
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:44 | Permalink | Reply

    I personally don’t like the idea of that no placing blocks without standing on something. I’m afraid any significant changes can make a certain thing I like doing in the game harder. Again can there be a game mode where animals will still attack you but without the extra hard features?

  45. xcwaldmannx
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 18:47 | Permalink | Reply

    Heres what Im thinkin’ Kaalus.

    While swimming:
    No, it seems like it would be kinda difficult to build things while swimming unless proper swimming gear was introduced into the game that allowed you flotation or oxygen (but dont do that unless you make like a simple lifevest)

    While in a boat:
    Absolutely. The boat is a tool, and it becomes even more useful when you realize you cant place a block while swimming. So yes, you should be able to place blocks in a boat.

    While on a horse:
    Yes, I think this, like the boat, would make the horse a more useful tool. Sitting up high on a horse allows you to build a bit higher than when your not. All the more reason to befriend one!

    While standing on another creature:
    No. Now I have personally never done this, but it seems kinda dumb to place blocks while on a creature, respectfully.

    Forseeable issues:
    I saw others mention that they often “pillar jump” to cut trees down just as I often do. I wont like the fact that I cant do this cuz I hate floating trees too, but I still want this update so the game is harder and it is overall a good idea.

    Possible Solution for the trees:
    Kaalus, what if when you break a block of the main trunk portion of the tree, any logs on that same horizontal plane also break and fall? Just make the main log that the branches are attached to a bit harder to cut.

    Great work Kaalus, keep it up!

    • Dull Bananas
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:09 | Permalink | Reply

      For breaking trees, maybe Kaalus should take inspiration from Lumber Tycoon (a roblox game)

  46. skateryz
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:10 | Permalink | Reply

    Can this feature only be in Cruel please.

    • skateryz
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:14 | Permalink | Reply

      Or can there be a way to disable features such as these

    • Thanos
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:47 | Permalink | Reply

      Nice but i have a couple of ideas.

      (1) When a storm is coming, dark clouds should form in the sky, then there should be wind. Trees should blow in the wind to make it more realistic. Then there should be some type of damage happening during the storm like fallen trees from high winds, house damage etc.

      (2) maybe there should be fruit trees and bushes. Like apple trees, pear trees, orange trees, then mango, plums coconut etc, there there should be raspberry bushes, strawberry bushes, blueberry bushes etc,

      (3) rivers should actually move and there should be waves in the water and tides at the shore. Then when a storm comes, the waves and tides get worse.

      (4) fishing rods should be added so that players can fish.

      • skateryz
        Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:12 | Permalink | Reply

        Good ideas!

  47. Johan Steyn
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:30 | Permalink | Reply

    Mmm. For sure ir is realistic, but I do think it will not as such make it harder as it will just make it cumbersome. If you want to make it harder, rather give predators a longer line of site/smell. Also make animals like lions and wolves more aggressive during the day. Also being in an intermediate difficulty.

    • skateryz
      Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:49 | Permalink | Reply

      I agree

  48. Johan Steyn
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 19:47 | Permalink | Reply

    Chopping down trees will become too cumbersome, especially very tall trees. So you add a more realistic element, but you leave trees to float in the air. If you want to do this, you will need trees to fall down after being chopped, as already mentioned. Then you can add this feature, only then.

    There are some more realistic features that actually make the game unnecessarily slow. Give us an option to dig faster please. Mabe an “arcade” mode. This one reason why MC might be more popular. The digging is very fast, which makes gameplay quick.

    But of courses the biggest reason is MP. But I see this has begun to be a swear word.

  49. Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:11 | Permalink | Reply

    in my opinion putting a block while swimming and driving is quite realistic, it is very likely to happen why not, building on animals is normal why not🤔

  50. Abbi H
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:20 | Permalink | Reply

    “Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible?”
    -Yes. Not being able to place blocks while swimming would make things tough. What happens when you’re mining and accidentally break a block that lets water in, you wouldn’t be able to pug it since you would be in water.
    “Do you think placing blocks while riding should be possible? and Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible?”
    -Yes. I’m lumping these together because riding and being on an animal really isn’t that different IRL. I’m actually going to give an example of building while on a horse. A couple weeks ago, my brother was at a friends house getting his horse shoes. The lights in the barn they were in went out, so they (brother and friend) went to get some LED work lights to hang up. In one spot, they could hang the lights up using the skid loader, the other spot, the skid loader wouldn’t fit and the friend had left his only ladder at another friends house. So the friend ask my brother how the horse would handle being stood on. So my brother ended up standing on the horse bareback, using a drill to put up lights while the friend held the horse. So, while not the smartest thing, even in real life, you can stand on animals to build things.
    “Can you see any unforeseen problems with this idea?”
    – The biggest problem I see are big trees, we wouldn’t be able to get the whole tree unless we brought a ton of ladders to build to the top. One possible way around it is if the tree fell to the ground (maybe all the leaves on that side would be crushed). This could also add some more danger to the game since trees falling on you could kill you.

  51. Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:29 | Permalink | Reply

    I don’t really believe adding this would make the game any harder. It seems like it’d just make certain things annoying. I cant imagine a scenario when a player would run into this issue and happily exclaim how he is glad the game is hard. Rather I just see it adding to the frustration of new players and just being another emotionless obstacle for the experienced ones. I think if all you are doing is limiting the player, especially when it’s something that’s been in the game since the start, without adding some way to supplement it you aren’t making the game harder rather just tedious.

    If you don’t like player pillaring to get away from creatures make a couple more animals that jump higher/climb like the tiger. Inhibiting building isn’t the way to go in my opinion. I don’t mean to be harsh but how food rot changed the game was questionable and I dont want to see this update to get another questionable feature.

    • Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:41 | Permalink | Reply

      It seems a good portion of the community isn’t a fan of the idea and the one’s who claim they like it are using it as a platform to tell their want list. It already seems very controversial and these are the more experienced players saying this, imagine how the new ones would feel.

      • Alternate Person
        Posted December 8, 2019 at 21:50 | Permalink | Reply

        Love him or hate him, he’s spitting straight facts here.

  52. Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:33 | Permalink | Reply

    yes maybe my comment will never be read and replied, but at least I have submitted my opinion, and some pretty interesting suggestions in the previous post, if kaalus doesn’t respond to my suggestions and opinions it’s up to him, I’m just a connoisseur the game that feels the game is quite interesting but there are a few flaws that’s why I commented🙁

  53. Sophie Charlotte
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:41 | Permalink | Reply

    As I only play in creative, because I build furniture and other stuff, at this point the update seems to be really unimportant to me.
    Of course I would have died for a clothing creator or moving furniture, but I think this will be really great to bring the community back alive.
    I would (only metaphorically) kill for a search bar for community content but at least an update is coming

  54. Thanos
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:44 | Permalink | Reply

    Nice but i have a couple of ideas.

    (1) When a storm is coming, dark clouds should form in the sky, then there should be wind. Trees should blow in the wind to make it more realistic. Then there should be some type of damage happening during the storm like fallen trees from high winds, house damage etc.

    (2) maybe there should be fruit trees and bushes. Like apple trees, pear trees, orange trees, then mango, plums coconut etc, there there should be raspberry bushes, strawberry bushes, blueberry bushes etc,

    (3) rivers should actually move and there should be waves in the water and tides at the shore. Then when a storm comes, the waves and tides get worse.

  55. Thanos
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 20:45 | Permalink | Reply

    Nice but i have a couple of ideas.

    (1) When a storm is coming, dark clouds should form in the sky, then there should be wind. Trees should blow in the wind to make it more realistic. Then there should be some type of damage happening during the storm like fallen trees from high winds, house damage etc.

    (2) maybe there should be fruit trees and bushes. Like apple trees, pear trees, orange trees, then mango, plums coconut etc, there there should be raspberry bushes, strawberry bushes, blueberry bushes etc,

    (3) rivers should actually move and there should be waves in the water and tides at the shore. Then when a storm comes, the waves and tides get worse.

    (4) fishing rods should be added so that players can fish.

    • Edgar De La Luz
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 07:26 | Permalink | Reply

      Hey stop!!! >:(

  56. Posted December 8, 2019 at 21:07 | Permalink | Reply

    Yes, for underwater builds
    No horse, but yes boat to build bridges
    No
    No forseen problems

  57. Jordan Michaels
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 21:56 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus, Hello! First off, since you started your posting frenzy on this update, can I just say that I’ve been over joyed to see you back at this game. It’s good to see that you hadn’t lost all zest for this project.

    Can I pose a suggestion? I see you tend to do things to make life harder for the willing masochists who fancy themselves cave men out there. It’s cool. Could we see something else that is highly realistic? Such as felling trees?

    I’ve always been a SurvivalCraft player as apposed to minecraft, but the one time I did try the latter, I decided to check out the mods. One mod was the ability to cut down the trees by hacking at the stump until wood rained down like christmas. I know it seems like blackmagic… but could we get this feature in survivalcraft? It just makes so much sense to me that I honestly can’t go back to playing without this.

    Anyway, my penny for the cold world;
    Yes placing blocks underwater
    Yes while mounted on horse or boat
    No while jumping unless maybe there was a throwing mechanic added? Actually…. Throwing blocks to place would be super cool! You could decrease stamina while tossing things. (Apologies if stamina isn’t a thing… I’m going by a somewhat foggy memory.)

    Please think about what I said.
    Your such an awesome developer and I thank you for this game.
    I can’t wait to delve back into SC2,

    The best to you and your family!

  58. theunsfvo
    Posted December 8, 2019 at 22:45 | Permalink | Reply

    Do you think placing blocks while swimming should be possible? – NO
    Do you think placing blocks while riding (a horse or a boat etc.) should be possible? – NO
    Do you think placing blocks while standing on another creature should be possible? – NO
    Can you see any unforeseen, big problems with this whole idea? – NO

    I think it is a create idea to increase the challenge like this! :)

  59. Dante Lorenzo
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 00:24 | Permalink | Reply

    Put blocks such as fences or items without breaking them with water :)

  60. Loopy Doopy
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 00:26 | Permalink | Reply

    A general idea of how breeding would work in the game. 👍

    • Winter Wolves
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 01:50 | Permalink | Reply

      This is good, but the idea of saddling them should be taken out. I also feel like we should have control of when to make it happen otherwise it would be to out of control since in real life cows and bulls don’t just do the thing all the time. I also like the idea of it taking a while so it can be more realistic because things do not happen in one day.

      • Loopy Doopy
        Posted December 9, 2019 at 05:47 | Permalink | Reply

        Yes, I agree

  61. Posted December 9, 2019 at 00:45 | Permalink | Reply

    While swimming?
    Yes, but using tools and breaking blocks should take longer than normal.

    While riding?
    Yes, but using tools and breaking blocks should take slightly longer than normal.

    While standing on another creature?
    No, too unrealistic. I mean, was building while standing on top of a wild animal a thing in real life?

    Unforeseen, big problems?
    These restrictions should be only for challenging and cruel mode while being excluded in harmless and of course creative mode. Maybe there can even be an option to toggle these for creative mode.

  62. MB 778
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 01:50 | Permalink | Reply

    I’m not complete agree with those options, placing blocks while swimming don’t even should be an option, I mean, i thought that feature was available since the game was released in 2011, well I think I have never tried to build underwater before, this option must be added.
    placing block while riding?, of course yes, but would not like if remove blocks become hard while riding, i think this one could be added too
    placing blocks while standing creatures, also yes, but not for challenge or cruel.

    I have suggestion for this update (or maybe the next one)
    1) Add system of scaffolding (like Minecraft, but more realistic), i mean, put blocks for placing other blocks over another blocks that you placed before, that sounds annoying, that’s why i think add scaffolding could be a great addition, in this way, you don’t have to remove and put a lot of blocks to make a simple 10×10 house, maybe you could create it with iron sticks and wooden slabs
    2) Freezer, this one is favorite, you can make a freezer in your survival world for put fish, beef, chicken and eggs to prevent from rotting, i could bet my bed’s blanket that you have gotten even a little mad when you realize the meat of gnu that you have just killed one minute and a half ago is rotten now, It would be a electronic block that works with battery.

  63. Posted December 9, 2019 at 01:53 | Permalink | Reply

    Yes

    No

    Yes

    I also agree with breeding update :)

    (the update already seems awesome, but will have new animals? At least one?)

  64. shez951
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:01 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus, I like the fact that you have returned don’t get me wrong. But honestly this is a bad idea

  65. Winter Wolves
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:03 | Permalink | Reply

    Place blocks while swimming should be allowed.
    Place blocks while riding should be allowed too.
    Place blocks while on a creature ehhh… I feel like it is a life choice, do you wanna live or not?? I want to live so I wouldn’t.
    I do see problems though. I saw the thing everyone was mentioning about the tree problem. It is very true because we all like to reach the top wood, side wood, and leaves. We wouldn’t be able to do this without the towering we all do to remove them. Another thing is that the day isn’t long enough for us to take a more longer time to build the house if we have to be standing on something to place a block. Here in my place the day is longer in the summer and in the winter the day time is just about the same as the night time. In Survivalcraft I always feel like the day is very short and the night is ridiculously long. If you were to make the rule of being on something to place blocks then I might as well live in the side of a mountain than die out there. I have to first collect enough wood to make a house and a crafting table, then a sword. By the time I have collected my wood the rain has already started indicating the day is getting close to ending. I work through the rain but with this new rule it would take longer and I just might dig a hole and call it my house and place a trapdoor up there.

  66. Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:04 | Permalink | Reply

    Oh thank you kaalus for not removing stone arrows and spears! I appreciate that you listen to us. As for your questions, id say that swimming and placing blocks is a no, and the other two are a yes, in my opinion.

  67. Roberto Dias
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 02:39 | Permalink | Reply

    Hi Kaalus!
    Jumping quickly to place blocks below you is a good thing as it increases the usefulness of the stairs, so I don’t see any major problems limiting the ability to place blocks. If you remove the ability to position blocks while swimming, you are limiting exploration to the ocean floor, which would be no problem if you create something like submarines.

  68. Posted December 9, 2019 at 03:22 | Permalink | Reply

    Personally, I don’t think removing the jumping and placing block below the player makes things more realistic if other things, such as floating trees and break hard blocks with barehand are there, all right that Surivalcraft always always had this “realism” concept, but I think you’re worrying about the wrong things.
    If it’s to make things really more realistic and keep the challenge balanced for all players in these game modes, I think you should work on other important things in the game mechanics that can take a lot of work and trouble to solve…
    And, my answers to the questions are:
    Swimming: Yes
    Boat: yes
    Horse: no
    Other creatures: nope too
    About the unforeseen problems, yes, this can significantly affect gameplay if the idea of ​​”no place blocks while jumping” comes up, we will have more trouble doing things that were never a problem or that easy …

  69. Daniel Brown
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 04:21 | Permalink | Reply

    one thing about creative mode is that i want to be able to fill chests and dispensers full of what ever i want like ( filling it up with XP so i can be op and bet up all the birds with stone chunks XD)

  70. Billy
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 04:47 | Permalink | Reply

    I see alot of people saying this will affect tree chopping. While I personally don’t mind at all…
    I have come up with my best solution; chop one of the bottom blocks on a tree and all the rest of the tree above that would drop as if it had been chopped as well. To keep the game balanced the block you chop should resemble the amount of time that it would take to chop the blocks above it too…
    This would probably be hard to implement as the logic could get tricky. Just thought I’d share my thoughts.
    Btw it’s great to be hearing from you and SC again Kaalus!

  71. Mr Oscar
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 05:54 | Permalink | Reply

    I FOUND A BUG: FIX IT

    You can apparently use cell trapdoors as fuel in the furnace

  72. Johan Steyn
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 06:32 | Permalink | Reply

    In short, placing blocks while swimming should be allowed, as well as jumping.

    On jumping and building, guys coming over from MC will find it very restrictive.

    For the rest of your requests, it would not make a difference.

  73. Scott Atlas (MrCheezyPotato)
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 06:50 | Permalink | Reply

    Water should definitely be possible. Could cause all sorts of issues if it’s disabled. Imagine trying to patch a big hole in an under sea ceiling without touching the water…. Particularly mine shafts and short(height) tunnels and such. Or when building cool under sea houses and forts!

    I’m very happy you’re keeping the two stone weapons, not enough people listen to their player base nowadays

    As for horses, Im not sure. I would lean towards no, but I see no reason not to.

    With standing on animals, I don’t really know. However, due to how quickly they disappear, I feel like it wouldn’t ever really matter anyways. So, here’s an idea – What if you made it so that in order to harvest an animal for meat and skin, you had to hit it more while it was dead? And that it wouldn’t disappear (unless despawned in the way that a live animal would) until you harvested it?

    Also…. What if there was bone? Bone could be an early material to make weapons and such with, but it has lower durability than stone(seeing as it’s structural durability was compromised in the process of beating the brains out of the animal+snapping and shaping the bones into weapon like states)

  74. kacpermaxlewicki
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 07:21 | Permalink | Reply

    While swimming: no
    While riding a horse: yes
    While standing on a creature: yes
    Keep up the good work Kaalus!

    • kacpermaxlewicki
      Posted December 9, 2019 at 07:31 | Permalink | Reply

      Btw, I think that temperature is a great feature and cold places like taigas should be even colder and hot places should be hotter than they are now.

  75. Edgar De La Luz
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 07:35 | Permalink | Reply

    hey! … listen calmly maybe we should focus on the issue of blocks and not start making wishes.

  76. Waleed Mohmed
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 08:30 | Permalink | Reply

    can you make a fridge that can save food from rotting

  77. Dewreator 2
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 12:02 | Permalink | Reply

    Will you add internet multiplayer in 2.2 update?

  78. Posted December 9, 2019 at 13:55 | Permalink | Reply

    Will you add some modern machines or weapons, for example car and machine gun ?

  79. Posted December 9, 2019 at 14:12 | Permalink | Reply

    Sequential Responses: – During swimming it should be possible only materials that have a density higher than water. Like metal, stone and etc. This makes sense because it would allow for more realistic home creation in the water. – Yes. – yes, but you can kill some of them depending on the material, because stone blocks are naturally very heavy. In addition a creature could move with the block above it. It would be really interesting kkk. – There will be a lot of work to select all materials and combinations in relation to everything in the game environment. This will require a lot of work and careful analysis of just about everything. In a way, virtually the entire physical dynamics of the game can be changed.

    If you need more details, just ask me!

    Atenciosamente.

    Edeson Bizerril

    Graduando em Engenharia de Energias – UNILAB. Programador Python/ArcGIS no projeto internacional SaWam Brasil/Alemanha; Front-end Developer para a empresa MR ROCCO – SP.

    Desenvolvedor e mantenedor do app Intercampi – Unilab; Curriculum: Acessar currículo. Redenção, Ceará, Brasil. ________________________________

  80. Posted December 9, 2019 at 14:26 | Permalink | Reply

    1, Do you think it’s possible to place blocks when swimming?
    A: Yes, because the Survivalcraft character has a bad kidney. He will lost physical strength after swimming long distance. When he meets a large and not deep lake, he can dive to the bottom of the lake and take a rest.
    2, Do you think it’s possible to place blocks while riding (horses, boats, etc.)?
    A: it’s hard to say. I like to catch beluga and Orca when I play alone. This has a certain impact on my playing method.
    3, Do you think it’s possible to stand on other animals and place blocks?
    A: when you find yourself standing on top of a raptor (not in harmless mode), you are in great danger unless you have leggings, riding boots or 100% damage reduction boots. (I’m afraid I can’t beat them with these two pieces of equipment. ) It doesn’t matter if you can place a block.
    4, Can you see any big problems that have not been noticed in this change?
    A: the playability of the game will be reduced. Some players like to build houses or cages on the sea. (I like to catch whales on the sea.) This will cause some problems and let some players give their playing method up.

  81. battlemanchik
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 15:39 | Permalink | Reply

    Hi,
    On creature no: place block on orca or bas ? (;
    Ride & boat yeas: is make transport more importmant
    Swim no: build elevator of water and spamming blocks? (;

    Plise add swim jacked or sorcle for seif swimming withaut boat, thenk you very mach!
    Im pround of you!

  82. N John Salisbury
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 15:41 | Permalink | Reply

    Placing in water, honest not very realistic in my opinion. It makes more sense to place it from the shore.
    Placing from riding an animal or boat, for the boat it makes sense to me, not so much on the horse though.
    Placing on top of another animal, that shouldn’t be a thing.

    This would take a while to get used to but personally I like the idea of adding more of a challenge. I will say though that I like the ideas expressed above for when you chop the bottom log the rest of the tree comes crashing down.

  83. N John Salisbury
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 15:41 | Permalink | Reply

    Another thought- it’d be nice to have a cure for nausea. If you take the herb or whatever it would be, then you still are sick, you can’t eat much, and you get tired easily, but you aren’t throwing up every ten to fifteen seconds.

  84. battlemanchik
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 15:51 | Permalink | Reply

    Ps: it must stay in kruel mode
    In Challengin mode you can choose this nuans in GAMEPLAY OPIONS

  85. Posted December 9, 2019 at 16:02 | Permalink | Reply

    Glad to see you’re recognizing flint aka stone tools.

    Survival related bugs

    1 predators spawn in wrong biomes
    2 bears and tigers etc are present immediately. We used ti have a day or 2 head start. Wht happened to that? Now it’s just “Coliseumcraft”
    3 we should be able to preserve food. In cold cellar. Salt it. Something.
    4 clothes wear out too quickly
    5 Install Toggles on Misery Features like food rot, clothing disintegration, animals killing animals, top predators stalking spawn point, and now the new ones you are suggesting here about blocks.

    Personal opinion as long time player:

    In Version 1 survival was originally fun, even new players had a chance. Now it is not fun. Eaten by tiger in a 1 minute old new world is ridiculous and a turn off.

    I’m not looking for a plethora of fuzzy features like in Minecraft. But I am looking for fun. So are new players. Not everyone wants to play at the advanced level immediately and only.

    Install settings so users can actually play at a fun level for their skill level. Allow player to try new challenges at their pace.

    I can’t see your stats but I imagine you’re losing players. Making these features optional would give users the choice to progress to new challenges at their pace. Make SC fun for everyone again.

  86. DAM SAM
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 16:23 | Permalink | Reply

    I have a 2.2 modification idea which is basically allowing pistons to push and pull blocks like dispenser, chests, furnace and crafting table because besides being very unrealistic nobody uses these blocks to set limits for the pistons

  87. Special Demigod
    Posted December 9, 2019 at 19:23 | Permalink | Reply

    Hey Kaalus, I like this idea, but I think you should be able to place blocks in water, if we can place blocks while running, why cant we do it while swimming? And for the cutting trees problem some people have, if you don’t add something like tree-capitator, there’s an easy fix. You know how sometimes you dig straight down, you dig a 2×1 hole to avoid something bad, we could do the same for the trees, but going up.

  88. Posted December 12, 2019 at 00:20 | Permalink | Reply

    I think blocks while swimming should be limited to placing 2 or so blocks down at a time per breath. It would also be interesting to be able to use backpacks and place them down… otherwise you can drown from a heavy load. This would also be useful if exploring dangerous areas and you just want to drop gear before entering. While on animal, you should be able to place items still, but with reduced range or speed.

  89. ilovesurvivalcraft
    Posted December 16, 2019 at 18:06 | Permalink | Reply

    I think stone tools are very realistic now stone machete not so much but a stone shovel or pickaxe and axe would seem more realistic.

  90. ssannin
    Posted December 25, 2019 at 04:08 | Permalink | Reply

    I love your game Kaalus and I think it is better than MineCraft, but now these updates are making survival way too hard. These should be on cruel. I love all the new tools, but not being able to place blocks freely and making it harder to kill animals is making surviving impossible. Please think about changing some of these. Or make a setting that can turn these changes on or off

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