Bogged down

A few days ago I had a brainwave and started working on a very promising idea for 2.1. Unfortunately it seems the amount of work to get it done is absolutely massive. I am currently bogged down, knee deep in classes, almost rewriting entire game from scratch. Maybe it’s an exaggeration, but I am touching almost every bit of code there is. The amount of bugs I am unwittingly introducing must be staggering.

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The problems are caused by some assumptions I hardcoded into the game from day one (5 years ago), so they are deeply entrenched and very hard to root out now.

As much as I would love to, I can’t tell you what the thing is until I am sure it will work. At the moment it seems lightyears away! I hope I am wrong here. At least yesterday the game started compiling again, but lots of things are broken.

If I manage to complete it, it will be grand. If I fail, I’ll have to revert and go back to what I was doing at the start of the week, which was not bad in itself and much easier :-)

 

177 Comments

  1. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:40 | Permalink | Reply

    First \o/

    • Posted January 17, 2017 at 00:23 | Permalink | Reply

      Glad you reserved the second post for me to advertise SCTB on… :D

      Most of you have probably heard about SCTB by now, some of you may have even used the pre-beta program I made to test all the features on. All of you wanted it to be in a 3D editor, which of course has always been the plan. That was already happening but the development got slow and crumbled. Since then I’ve rebooted the project and just wrote on the blog about it!

      https://crayzination.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/the-reboot/

    • Posted January 20, 2017 at 12:41 | Permalink | Reply

      First floor building.

  2. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:41 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus, I’m really happy that 2.1 will be a survival update, so I guess it’s a great time for you to consider some of my suggestions. There are some things that I really want to be added to the game since 1.26:

    Saddle bags: Probably the thing I want the most right now, I always wanted to make a “World exploration” world, in wich I will travel the world with my horse/camel and would camp during the night, however, this proves to be hard with limited inventory, since long-term homeless exploration needs clothing, food, resources and tools, and it’s nearly impossible to carry all these by yourself, so adding the possibilty for mounts to carry items will make long travels possible and more viable.

    Tents: Alongside with Saddle bags, tents or some kind of craftable shelter will also be nescessary, they would provide protection from mobs, would provide insulation, and would make it possible for you to sleep inside them. Kaalus could also add diferrent kinds of tents, such as tents made from leaves, canvas and leather, wich would have different perks:
    Leaves: Easy to craft, but provide weak insulation and can be easily destroyed.
    Canvas: Good insulation and slightly better protection
    Leather: Medium insulation, but the smell will scare predators away.

    Cooking on campfires: This is not only realistic and fun, but also very simple to add, Campfires should allow players to cook food on a slower rate. With the other additions above, this will make a nice camping mix.

    Bigger/More complex boats: I always liked to make sea adventure using a boat, however, with the new proper water transparency and cold, they are much harder to be done, so adding bigger boats that are more resilient to damage and have a small place for you to sleep and add 2-3 blocks such as a chest, crafting table or wicker lamp would be nice.

    Fire pits: A more permanent and durable campfire with stones surrounding it, will last longer and provide more heat.

    Please Kaalus, consider adding at least one of the things listed above, they are simple and will make gameplay more dynamic :)

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 01:52 | Permalink | Reply

      He already added canvas and leather

      • Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:08 | Permalink | Reply

        I think what was meant was those materials would be used as part of the crafting.

    • Posted January 18, 2017 at 07:00 | Permalink | Reply

      I often find myself being disheartened to play survival mode even when I’m in the mood to do so due to the fact that I’m constantly losing my temporary shelter/crafting table/furnace/chests etc and end up just building a new one rather than getting torn apart wandering aimlessly around at night looking for something I’m likely never to find. The limited inventory has always been that restricting factor that in a board less world literally makes it limited in survival mode.

      Your ideas, which I’ve seen suggested elsewhere before are the definition of what needs to be added to survivalcraft to make it a realistic survival game which is pretty much the reason everyone plays survivalcraft for the realistic factor.

      So your trapped on a desert island and you need to cook some food you caught or boil some water, let’s build a stone furnace….. Or maybe cook on an open fire? Which one seems more realistic?

      Cooking on open fires, and tents /swags are 2 things that define survival in real life for any would be adventurer or outdoors type person so adding them to a realistic survival game makes perfect sense.

      Saddle bags would solve my problem with survival mode instantly. Opening up a whole other path of game play for survivalist and creative peeps alike. Most of the fun with a randomly generated world with no boarders is exploration no? I just want to see what’s over that next hill and not have to go back :)

  3. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:46 | Permalink | Reply

    Hope it goes well.

    How do I follow a thread without commenting on WordPress?

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 01:35 | Permalink | Reply

      Johan steyn I think it’s a crane or a massive thing

      • Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:37 | Permalink | Reply

        I don’t think he’s leaving clues this time. But who knows…

        • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
          Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:19 | Permalink

          Hehehe that was a joke a crane

  4. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:47 | Permalink | Reply

    something grand and exciting? Work da**it!

  5. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:49 | Permalink | Reply

    Good luck! I hope it works. (I’m calling it right now that everyone in the comment section will be screaming, “MULTIPLAYER!!” 😂)

  6. Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:49 | Permalink | Reply

    The new feature is mud! (jk just saying thr photo name!)

  7. Jean Martin
    Posted January 14, 2017 at 21:54 | Permalink | Reply

    Sounds not good…

  8. OvMex740
    Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:11 | Permalink | Reply

    Oh, well, patience is a virtue.

  9. Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:15 | Permalink | Reply

    Good luck Kaalus! We believe in you!

  10. Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:17 | Permalink | Reply

    Dogs and cats, good luck on your grand project. Love the new game already.

  11. Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:19 | Permalink | Reply

    If you have problems with this feature, which is not multiplayer, I can already imagine the problems you will have when you try to add multiplayer.

  12. Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:39 | Permalink | Reply

    Rewriting every single bit of the code? That’s should be something of big… Really big… Even more bigger than furniture?

    In any case… I hope for the best!

    #DeveloperWorldProblems once again ^_~

    • Posted January 14, 2017 at 23:31 | Permalink | Reply

      Well, when kaalus add the new game engine (in 1.26) he rewrite all the code. This is a amount of work!

      • Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:22 | Permalink | Reply

        I almost forgot about that… Well, the new engine went well, don’t you think?

        I was wondering why he is doing this massive work… Multiplayer or 64bit block data conversion seems unlikely… Too early tbh

  13. Posted January 14, 2017 at 22:58 | Permalink | Reply

    Good luck on your endeavours Kaalus. You tread where other programmers fear and it means a great deal to us that you should tackle a difficult task rather than take the easy route. If I may add one suggestion, when you crouch you can pass through spaces one block high.

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 00:09 | Permalink | Reply

      That’s a great idea. Basically crawling in tight spaces. I second that. Many times a 1×1 block is a window or trap door. Would be nice to be able to climb in, assuming the ground outside was level with the opening. How about using vines to climb up into trees or up rock faces?

      Now that we have gunpowder and muskets, maybe craft a weapon that can lunch small grenades far enough to use for animal control (taking out packs of wolves, lions, and herd animals). We already have small craftable explosives – this would just be a launcher. Really enjoying SC2 game so far.

      • Posted January 15, 2017 at 22:29 | Permalink | Reply

        Threcruiter are already bombs in the game, and the the dispenser/shooter block and shoot anything from a staticouple location

  14. Posted January 14, 2017 at 23:20 | Permalink | Reply

    Good luck buddy

  15. Posted January 14, 2017 at 23:46 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus need to hire Notch for coding VILLAGER xD #Just kidding

  16. Posted January 14, 2017 at 23:59 | Permalink | Reply

    Im excited for the new update!

  17. Posted January 15, 2017 at 00:06 | Permalink | Reply

    Finally fixing the game…YEESSS!!!!!!1!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1! That should take a while, it is very broken!!!1! Dying from 8 blocks high (roughly 24 feet) is just silly most Humans can survive 70-80 foot falls and only break some bones in their feet. It should be at least DOUBLED to be realistic… Yeah, and get rid of the wolf weres, so there is so much work ahead.

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 01:34 | Permalink | Reply

      Rip eng

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 03:13 | Permalink | Reply

      If you want to see the list of bugs I found in Survivalcraft 2 so far, please see comment number 21 on this post. Some of the bugs have been present before 2.0 and possibly 1.21 and 1.22!

    • Geoffrey Brunell
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 19:31 | Permalink | Reply

      Actually, the World Health Organization reports that of the 400,000-500,000 people every year who die from falling, many of them are from falls that are less than 20 feet.

    • Flaming Rohirrim
      Posted January 17, 2017 at 19:45 | Permalink | Reply

      I have one thing to say. NEVER SAY THAT ABOUT SURVIVALCRAFT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Posted January 15, 2017 at 00:23 | Permalink | Reply

    Your hard work is appreciated Kaalus and I wish you the best of luck with your grand plans.

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 00:46 | Permalink | Reply

      I’m guessing it’s raining that accumulates… or something to do with water. Rain that produces muds, puddles, floods, flowing water/rivers… maybe eventually leading to pipesee one day.

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:21 | Permalink | Reply

        Rainbows too

  19. Posted January 15, 2017 at 00:39 | Permalink | Reply

    Interesting.

  20. Posted January 15, 2017 at 01:05 | Permalink | Reply

    Hi Kaalus I want to congratulate you for your great work that you have done in survivalcraft 2 I wish you luck. You can add multiplayer and villages with villagers PLS

  21. Posted January 15, 2017 at 01:11 | Permalink | Reply

    Sounds a lot like multi-player….

  22. Posted January 15, 2017 at 03:01 | Permalink | Reply

    OMG MULTIPLAYER comments coming in hot

  23. Posted January 15, 2017 at 03:03 | Permalink | Reply

    Hopefully a tamable wolf/dog… need companion.

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:22 | Permalink | Reply

      Hunting dogs like hounds are better than wolfs

    • Posted January 18, 2017 at 07:18 | Permalink | Reply

      Lulz haha

  24. Posted January 15, 2017 at 03:11 | Permalink | Reply

    Bugs I found in Survivalcraft 2 so far:

    1. When playing in a world, the camera occasionally spazzes out to a random direction slightly. This is not only annoying but also frustrating especially while you are in cruel mode, when mining, and while you are in combat. This can also cause you to have some of your ranged attacks to miss as if in 1.29 and earlier, it would hit because those versions do not have the spazzing bug. This bug can be serious. Please fix it soon!

    2. When you leave an area where there is a massive wildfire, some of the fire will float in air permanently burning an air block and repeats endlessly.

    3. On some of the older 64-bit iOS devices like the iPhone 6, iPad Mini 2, and iPhone 5S, some of the entities with 2D models contain an outline that is not well erased. Please fix this graphical bug by updating the blocks texture for 2.1. Again, you can fix this graphical bug for 2.1.

    4. When your X-Coordinates and/or Y-Coordinates are less than 1, you clip through the terrain and you go below bedrock, thus, you fall out of the world. This Bug also affects the player placing blocks. Note: This bug does not affect large animals such as Bears, Orcas, Beluga Whales, and Rhinos. This bug has been present since 1.22 (and possibly 1.21). Please fix this bug, which has been present for a long time, for 2.1. Also, when your X-Coordinates and/or Y-Coordinates are close to 0, there is a bug in which water blocks do not move unless if you mess with it.

    5. This bug has probably also been around for a long time, but rare. This bug is that you may find floating terrain that has not been created by the player. And in rare cases, there may even be some floating trees. Please fix this for 2.1 by improving terrain generation.

    6. When you are in the water and completely wet, the squelching sounds still play. Squelching sounds are not supposed to play while you are in the water. They are only supposed to play when you are on land. This bug has been present since 1.27.

    7. When you throw spears at the upper part of a target and wood, they do not stick. This can be frustrating when you are practicing your spear throwing. Also, when you throw bricks at birds, even at very close range, The brick will travel too slow and not deal any damage. Please fix this bug by speeding up the spears and bricks a little bit.

    8. When you are killed by a Black Bull, the cause of death says “Killed by a”. It is supposed to say “Killed by a Black Bull”. I also recommend that if you are killed by a bull or cow, it should say the type of bull/cow on cause of death screen. Black Cow: “Killed by a Black Cow”; Black Bull: “Killed by a Black Bull”; White Bull: “Killed by a White Bull”; Brown Cow: “Killed by a Brown Cow”; Brown Bull: “Killed by a Brown Bull”. Please fix the typo on the cause of death when you are killed by a black bull. Also, I recommend that when you are killed by a cow or a bull, it should display the type of cow or bull.

    Kaalus, please fix those bugs for either another bugfix update for 2.0 or for the upcoming 2.1 update. Thank you for reading.

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:07 | Permalink | Reply

      I’ve experienced the brick bug a couple of times and is quite annoying! And I think that happens with a couple of other animals, but I’m not sure…

      The Floating Island isn’t a real bug… It can be reduced but cannot be resolved, floating islands generates when a cave is “generated” in the air close to a mountain or something like That…

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 09:25 | Permalink | Reply

      I saw a tree with dirt instead of wood and I said wtf it has leaves but below it is dirt instead of bark or wood so odd

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 14:22 | Permalink | Reply

      Dirt tree bug I’ve seen the most of.
      World fall threw glitch is so annoying, Worlds should allow you to Loop around, that would save so much data.
      Floating islands are … Ok I guess, (levi-stones).
      One Glitch I kind of found is if you hit a wolf in the back of the head with a gravel piece, “rock” (grey wolves more) they seem to die instantly. It doesn’t happen all the time, but 2/10 times is enough to notice in 1.29.
      Thanks for the glitch list.

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 00:23 | Permalink | Reply

      I’ve experienced 1, 2, 5 and 6. I play on an iPod Touch 6 with iOS 10.2.

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 05:33 | Permalink | Reply

      The superman eye is the best and only bug I experience so far. with a little technique you could sea already if it’s day or night outside or see caves or magma beneath the ground with no digging required. I know I’m not the only uses this but it’s still a bug~.

    • Stanimus
      Posted January 16, 2017 at 17:58 | Permalink | Reply

      Here, I thought your #1 was just my spasmatic thumb! So, it’s not just me – that’s a relief. The rest of those are mere nuisances or easy to avoid (stay away from 0,0!) However the stairs corner bug has been driving me nuts for a long time.

    • Posted January 20, 2017 at 12:38 | Permalink | Reply

      kaalus will not read these.

      • Posted January 20, 2017 at 13:52 | Permalink | Reply

        You are wrong. Kaalus actually will read this. But he won’t respond. Just read.

  25. Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:41 | Permalink | Reply

    GOOD LucK KAALUS

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:07 | Permalink | Reply

      Pfft please kaalus will get this done. He basically said the same thing about furniture. We have hope.

  26. Posted January 15, 2017 at 04:43 | Permalink | Reply

    I think that he was initially working on drinking water as the survival mechanism which led him to the idea of true flowing water hence the being bogged down.

    • Flaming Rohirrim
      Posted January 17, 2017 at 19:50 | Permalink | Reply

      This sounds like a good theory…

  27. Posted January 15, 2017 at 05:06 | Permalink | Reply

    Hey kaalus!!! This is a must see big report/duplication glitch.

    If you place down a furniture and use the hammer on the furniture and simply change the way it’s facing the game will give you 6 more of those items instead of just editing that item. If you could fix this I absolutely hate dupe glitches.

    Placed furniture + hammer editing = 6 more furnitures

    Plus can you make furnaces, chests and crafting tables editable so we can create our own interactive items.

    • Stanimus
      Posted January 16, 2017 at 17:47 | Permalink | Reply

      Using the hammer MEANS creating a new piece. You’re asking for a change in the basic function of the tool. Perhaps an option in the hammer UI, like we have for changing the name would work…

      • Posted January 16, 2017 at 20:42 | Permalink | Reply

        He refers to a bug where you can get infinite furnitures from one single furniture in survival

        • Posted January 16, 2017 at 22:58 | Permalink

          Yes Chris drake +1. I have previously created the furniture and already have placed it down. It infinitely will duplicate that item when editing it. I already got a video of it I’ll post a link to it shortly.

        • Stanimus
          Posted January 17, 2017 at 00:11 | Permalink

          Oh, now I see. And agree. I haven’t yet made furniture in a survival mode. I usually play on cruel when survival and doubt I’ll make furniture there. It’s usually enough just to stay alive.
          BTW, I’ve learned some interesting things about furniture but won’t speak to them here. Only on the forum or wiki…

  28. Posted January 15, 2017 at 07:46 | Permalink | Reply

    Please, don’t give up! We believe in you!

  29. Posted January 15, 2017 at 08:00 | Permalink | Reply

    A mod support API would be great! Just a library that would give us functions to manipulate the game:

    GetPlayerPos
    GetPlayerFacingAngle
    GetPlayerCameraPos
    GetPlayerVelocity
    GetPlayerHealth
    GetPlayerHunger
    GetPlayerInventoryItem (by index, as indexed in the project.xml currently)
    GetPlayerCameraFrontVector

    SetPlayerPos (with a stream time compensation loading screen if the desired position is outside of the currently streamed chunks)
    SetPlayerFacingAngle
    SetPlayerCameraPos (with a stream time compensation loading screen if the desired position is outside of the currently streamed chunks)
    SetPlayerVelocity
    SetPlayerHealth
    SetPlayerHunger
    SetPlayerInventoryItem (by index, as indexed in the project.xml currently)

    GetBlock* (return block type, data, and light from position… postion will be floats not ints)
    SetBlock*

    GetPosFromRaycast(float startX, float startY, float startZ, float endX, float endY, float endZ, float distance) (return pos hit by the ray, and all 0’s if nothing was hit)
    GetSurfaceNormalFromRaycast(float startX, float startY, float startZ, float endX, float endY, float endZ, float distance) (return surface normal of face hit by the ray, and all 0’s if nothing was hit) (since we are typically hitting just blocks then this could just be a direction I guess)
    GetBlockPosFromRaycast(float startX, float startY, float startZ, float endX, float endY, float endZ, float distance, bool adjacent) (return pos of block hit by the ray, and all 0’s if nothing was hit; if adjacent is true then the block in the direction of the ray will be returned, if it’s false then the block behind the position will be returned)

    Also add the ability to highlight blocks in the game, in which blocks (including air) would be highlighted with a box (cube with transparent faces and solid edges).
    Only the API will be able to highlight blocks, with a “SetBlockHighlight” or something.
    – SetBlockHighlight(int x, int y, int z, bool toggle, Color color);
    I’m pretty sure you already have the code for this since you have the black-edged box thing already that shows which block you’re looking at.

    And finally, a graphics interface system would be nice. Just something that would allow us to show text, rectangles, and images on the screen.

    With this basic API we could EASILY create an in-game editor and many other useful things!

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 08:01 | Permalink | Reply

      Of course, I might just be dreaming though… Kaalus is a single person team guy with a lot on his plate!

  30. josmile
    Posted January 15, 2017 at 10:14 | Permalink | Reply

    Hi Kaalus.
    I just wanted to thank you for the New Year’s fireworks.

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 11:25 | Permalink | Reply

      Ur welcome:D

      • Posted January 15, 2017 at 11:55 | Permalink | Reply

        You’re not Kaalus ._.

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted January 15, 2017 at 13:06 | Permalink | Reply

        Blocky head truly I am

        • Posted January 15, 2017 at 15:19 | Permalink

          Ok, so can you give us the release date of 2.1, if you’re really Kaalus? :p

        • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
          Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:38 | Permalink

          It will be on summer

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 17:40 | Permalink | Reply

      Don’t feed the trolls.

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted January 15, 2017 at 22:07 | Permalink | Reply

        It will be on summer

      • Posted January 18, 2017 at 07:46 | Permalink | Reply

        But maybe he IS kaalus just being all undercover boss like… Or MAYBE some people LIKE trolls and hate to see them go hungry >:D

  31. Jean Martin
    Posted January 15, 2017 at 12:53 | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve found a bug with colored wires. Take a look at that: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yrwiyke5s5vxxl/Bug.mp4?dl=1

    • Jean Martin
      Posted January 15, 2017 at 12:54 | Permalink | Reply

      Sorry my fault. Wrong link

  32. Jean Martin
    Posted January 15, 2017 at 12:55 | Permalink | Reply

    Here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf3st1v5y1n6hsy/Bug2.mp4?dl=0

  33. Posted January 15, 2017 at 14:16 | Permalink | Reply

    my game for some reason cant link to my dropbox account and I want to share my months worth of work with you.
    my first electric game is called survival jump and is basically a simpler form of doodle jump except without the monsters. it also has my new input system what turns the onscreen buttons into electrical signals instead of having buttons in the game that block your view. you can look around the circuit and all major circuits are labelled so you can see what goes on for the game to run correctly. if you do want the explore break only the limestone blocks as they don’t have any wires or gates on them so you wont break the game.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4qbzrj5qmac6nq9/survival%20jump.scworld?dl=0

    I have also built minesweeper that follows all standard rules except for automatically clearing blank zones this is also labelled and has a smaller bonus build of an automatic survival door that you can keep open or closed in day light but at night it will automatically close to keep predators out.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/qj21ag2nrqnfqu5/minesweeper.scworld?dl=0

    • Posted January 15, 2017 at 14:29 | Permalink | Reply

      I am currently working on survival jump 2 now with monsters to kill or avoid if you do find any bugs with the game please reply as I want to fix it before it goes into survival jump 2. Also if you can think of any game that would look OK with a black and white screen can you reply as I want to do another game but don’t know what to build.

  34. Posted January 15, 2017 at 18:34 | Permalink | Reply

    Can’t wait

  35. Posted January 16, 2017 at 05:24 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus will be adding a crane-eating mud.. coooooOOOOL..

  36. Posted January 16, 2017 at 08:07 | Permalink | Reply

    Normally people who think every update is multiplayer piss me off, but this feature ALMOST sounds like it could be multiplayer, not server based, but local based multiplayer, I mean this sounds absolutely massive and has to do with the very basis of the game code, idk though.i might be wrong

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:40 | Permalink | Reply

      That was I was thinking

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 16, 2017 at 11:42 | Permalink | Reply

      I realized that in survivalcraft when you start a game single player so it’s reverse psychology he will definitely add multiplayer because you can choose a mode like single player or multiplayer

      • Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:37 | Permalink | Reply

        But Kaalus said that he had a brainwave for a new idea… He already knew about multiplayer for a long time.

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 12:42 | Permalink | Reply

      Well right now, as a cruel mode player, I see multiplayer as a very bad idea. In any other mode besides creative resources would run out. I don’t care if we have 999,999,999 blocks long in the world or 10 times that, hundreds and hundreds of people all mining for germanium just to build a single piston would drain the world.
      Also in creative mode, my trapping skill has evolved~ I can now trap a player on ANY mode forever, or at least until some idiot lets them out of the trap… Few little hiccups there, but at least I’m trying to have fun in creative mode now.

      • Posted January 16, 2017 at 13:08 | Permalink | Reply

        H i Justin. You are mainly talking of one scenario in MP. There are many. One option is local multiplayer where you only play with you friends and family. With this, your issue is not of concern. Then there are server based maps where usually one or a few has moderator rights and they can choose who or how many to allow in the game. If you have an unlimited game, then this could be a concern, but the map is supposed to be unlimited in size. The server could also limit the amount of players.

        In creative the same would apply, but it would great to have teams building things. Furniture would be a bit more complicated.

        Then again, anyone can choose not to use multiplayer at all. You can still just play single player if you do not like the idea.

      • Stanimus
        Posted January 16, 2017 at 15:59 | Permalink | Reply

        You posted about the ‘prison door’ in another topic. Could you elaborate? How about stopping by the forum or wiki and explain. Let the adventure map makers in on the trick? I’ve been making some other discoveries, like the ‘invisble’ blocks…

        • Posted January 16, 2017 at 19:35 | Permalink

          You know the glitch Kaalus talked about with being able to move those “unbreakable” blocks in the very bottom of worlds? They require pistons to move (the piston is a solid block, and the character is 1.5 solid blocks) Well these blocks are still “unbreakable” in creative mode. So basically make a small enough room, or a room with walls big enough they can trap any creative player inside. It doesn’t matter how much lightening the summon, or how many bombs they throw, they are stuck. Only 2 ways I know how to get out, but not going to tell anyone those. I even made a world about them, I called it the Rule. Try trapping yourself~

        • Stanimus
          Posted January 16, 2017 at 20:13 | Permalink

          Oh, that was so NOT the impression I got from the other post. BTW, breaking bedrock is a commonly known ‘secret’.

      • Posted January 16, 2017 at 20:10 | Permalink | Reply

        You can get out of a bedrock cage. Even if the size is 1x2x1 you can get out in creative. In survival you have to be lucky enough to start with the right items, but it’s still possible. Most players don’t know how to do this though.

        • Posted January 17, 2017 at 14:00 | Permalink

          Yeah that video is old… 12 sand blocks and boat don’t really work anymore. Also I said the biggest error in my trap design is some other player can come along and let someone out. So the prison idea works, basically need a guard to prevent someone form letting out a bad player.

        • Posted January 17, 2017 at 16:07 | Permalink

          It’s a lot simpler than that. All you need is a small gunpowder keg and one block. It doesn’t really keep creative players out.

        • Posted January 19, 2017 at 00:57 | Permalink

          was designed to keep a creative player trapped inside… Hence with just one piston I and switch and I could free a bad player no problem… but from the inside they are stuck, “forever”.

        • Posted January 19, 2017 at 01:42 | Permalink

          Shoot I meant in, creative players can get out of the cage with a small gunpowder and a block. Excuse me.

        • Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:43 | Permalink

          You know… there was a minigame that I had once intended to run once kaalus added multiplayer. It included a team of survival players going up against someone in creative mode. Basically the creative move player would join after the survival players got decent gear and items. If the survival players could get the one in creative mode to die, the survival mode team won. If all survival mode players died, the player in creative mode won. It was all based around the fact that you could lure and suffocate someone in creative mode, but this bedrock mechanic has made everything so much easier.

        • Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:44 | Permalink

          Would take forever, but I think you could make some sort of lure lead to a crushing bedrock wall.

        • Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:45 | Permalink

          I used to imagine that the survival team would use sand or closing trapdoors to suffocate the enemy, but now they can also use bedrock, although that would take quite a while.

        • Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:46 | Permalink

          They could also make a bedrock fort to prepare before they let the one in creative mode come online

  37. Posted January 16, 2017 at 12:17 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus, you’re a magician. Can you please introduce multiplayer to SurvivalCraft? Playing on a LAN over wifi would be nice for a family. Also try bluetooth for those who don’t have wifi. Its always fun to try new things…

  38. Posted January 16, 2017 at 13:18 | Permalink | Reply

    2.1 will be going to “Survival Theme ” right? Ok here the list to make the “Survival Theme” Perfect!

    1. Fishing Rod : Can take fish, but need to wait. (Need worms or never get fish..) The bait is Worms and bread , (The craft might be 2 sticks, 1 iron, )

    2.Breeding Animals : Make animal population more , instead of spawning it everywhere.. The animals always need to be neaby to make them breeding .. The breeding will make one of the animal, come out with a baby animal ( need to take some time after breeding)

    3. Improvement… : Makes tiger, lion , horse and any other animal that Have leather should give some leather when Killed …..
    4. Improvement….: Tigers ,lion , bear , horse, shark, and other “fat” animals should Give some meats when killed…

    5. Generated Structures : Abandoned Cabin, Village, Abandoned Village, Abandoned Mining place, and a secret room around the island (using piston of course!)

    6. One more improvement… : Add ” Search BAR ” in Community Content . Refresh The Community worlds, remove stupid worlds, and Very old World, (Dont remove MgBitlz World pls! And any other s Professional Electricity) And (IMPORTANT) Add categories in community content….Example… If you want to find electricity theme world, You will go to the categories..

    7. Add Meteor… .. When the Meteor fall down to earth, the first thing to hear is sound of the Meteor hits the atmosphere…. might be very Loud.. When the meteor hits The ground, the first thing to see is Light will fulling your screen, The sound will be like a television is broken, (I dont know the name of the sound..) And Your screen will shaking.. After the impact

    8. The Meteorite might has some iron… And any other that came from space… ( i’m not an astrofizik..)

    That’s all… And I wish Giraffe can eat leaves at the tree… Wow i think it will looks beautiful =)

    Thank you Kaaluz, Hope you can add this.. But if can’t i dont care so much… Love the SurvivalCraft 2 but are the piston Can pull Dispenser yet? I just update it.. Looks the same but nvm

    • Posted January 19, 2017 at 12:48 | Permalink | Reply

      1. yes that would help survival players.
      2. Yes, random spawns would make cruel mode easier.
      3. Yeah all animals need to drop something, I treat lions and tigers like zombies that just attack and give nothing
      4. now you’re asking for too much…
      5. Um, why have abandoned stuff if we get NPCs? Also wouldn’t it take more work/skill to fix up something broken then it would to build new?
      6. Not really helpful to cruel players sort of any level players …
      7. No, just no…
      8. You want iron to rain from heaven? I’d be begging for Germanium! Need more then a stack full just for one pisston!!! Skip Iron it’s almost worthless now!

      • Posted January 20, 2017 at 03:00 | Permalink | Reply

        Lol relax, just giving some imagination from mine..if you don’t like it just leave…. I don’t care if Kaalus will add these or not, i just want him not to give up in this game! GO SURVIVALCRAFT =)

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted May 20, 2017 at 18:23 | Permalink | Reply

      What about lioness is female lion with no mane also fishing nets,palm tree,honey and honey bees,honey taste good except for the bee sting part :)

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted May 20, 2017 at 18:26 | Permalink | Reply

        And rainbows too

  39. Stanimus
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 17:50 | Permalink | Reply

    Gotta love those lightbulb moments!

  40. Posted January 16, 2017 at 18:05 | Permalink | Reply

    I have come to a conclusion as to what this bog down might mean. One key problem Kaalus has, is that everything that can contains data, like chests, crafting tables, memory chips, logic tables, dispensers, etc., is fixed to a specific location in the data file. For this reason it is not possible to move these items with pistons. It would be better to rather give these items ID numbers. There are exceptions though, like delay gates. They have data, yet they can be moved with pistons.

    I think it is a big possibility that he is trying to do this. This could help us to move chests and dispensers. This will make a big difference. You’ll also be able to move memory chips with pistons, which will open up many options as well, especially in adventure maps.

    Add to this maybe he’ll enable dispensers to also receive items like chests can and then you can transport items over great distances.
    This feature is also needed for multiplayer, because every player is like a walking chest. You carry an inventory, clothes and a lot of other information.

    Kaalus am I getting warm? I know this might not be such an involved issue as you described, but it is something that is woven into a lot of things, but I might be very wrong. If this is not the issue, maybe you could address this at some stage.

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 18:06 | Permalink | Reply

      So with this in mind, a chest is literally bogged down in mud and cannot be moved.

    • Posted January 19, 2017 at 14:54 | Permalink | Reply

      It means he is extremely busy.

      • Posted January 19, 2017 at 15:06 | Permalink | Reply

        He is always extremely busy. Being bogged down and stuck in mud, means he has come across a problem that is keeping him back. I was wondering though if anybody read my statement.

  41. Posted January 16, 2017 at 19:09 | Permalink | Reply

    Feature Request:
    In creative mode, add a save state mode that allows you to revert. Kind of like how adventure mode allows your to reset the adventure, but for craft mode. I hate having to switch modes over and over to test out things I’ve built… and some times things just don’t go the way I hoped when crafting, especially with fire, laval, and explosives.

    • Stanimus
      Posted January 16, 2017 at 20:38 | Permalink | Reply

      I always save to SD before switching modes to test. You have to quit the world anyway, it’s just a couple more taps.

  42. Posted January 16, 2017 at 20:47 | Permalink | Reply

    OMG!!!! I have a feeling, MULTIPLAYER!!!!
    If you don’t want that, here is a few reasons u should.
    1. Many loyal fans left ur game be cuz of loneliness. Add multiplayer = they come back
    2. It can teach younger children to cooperate.
    3. Have fun.

    How it works.
    Type same world name
    type same seed.
    [u add] type same multiplayer code so the app knows to link the players together.

    PLZZZZZZ ADDD ITTTTTTTT!!!!!

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 21:31 | Permalink | Reply

      Hey look! Another one!

      Kaalus wants to put Multiplayer in SC, but he cannot do it momentarily… Check the FAQ section for more details

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted January 16, 2017 at 22:02 | Permalink | Reply

        Bogged down

    • Posted January 16, 2017 at 23:01 | Permalink | Reply

      Well number 2 can be questionable. They’ll learn cooperation but they can also become griefers.

  43. Posted January 16, 2017 at 23:02 | Permalink | Reply

    What if it’s npc’s ? If not kaalus can you add npcs who will follow, hunt, gather, build etc… And can be tamed/hired with a diamond.

    • Posted January 17, 2017 at 14:07 | Permalink | Reply

      The NPC’s don’t need us, they would be the natives in the land. Why would they want to help a player, or want a shiny diamond? They would probably just want food and shelter just like the player wants at the start of the game and nothing else. They going to have hopes and dreams of building a large castle?
      I could see them as helpful because you could trade with them, and they would be an “amusing” interaction, but that would be it, they would serve no real purpose in surviving, or helping the player besides keeping your sanity.

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted May 20, 2017 at 18:29 | Permalink | Reply

        How about a tribe

  44. DrSmCraft
    Posted January 16, 2017 at 23:11 | Permalink | Reply

    At this point, all I want is a feature that allows you to make custom mods for the game. I know that allowing for the game to be modifiable is tremendous amount of work, hopefully this is the update!

  45. Posted January 17, 2017 at 09:20 | Permalink | Reply

    101st comments. ;-)

    Ok Kaalus take your time.

  46. Blocky Warrior
    Posted January 17, 2017 at 21:17 | Permalink | Reply

    “The problems are caused by some assumptions I hardcoded into the game from day one…”
    I hate to burst your bubbles, y’all, but Kaalus has been planning for multiplayer from pretty early in the game.

    • Posted January 18, 2017 at 01:43 | Permalink | Reply

      Yeah, he has already stated that. He said that multiplayer has always been the goal but he’s waiting for something.

      • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
        Posted January 18, 2017 at 14:05 | Permalink | Reply

        Multiplayer with friends or multiplayer with all of the players around the world

  47. Posted January 18, 2017 at 11:26 | Permalink | Reply

    I really believe in you Kaalus!

    • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
      Posted January 18, 2017 at 14:07 | Permalink | Reply

      My update after bogged down will be shown in Saturday get ready bros

      • Posted January 21, 2017 at 22:13 | Permalink | Reply

        And if you were really kaalus you’d know these forum die instantly pretty much a new one is created.

        • kakashihatakethe6thhokage666
          Posted January 22, 2017 at 04:08 | Permalink

          That was just a joke take it easy don’t take to easily bruh

  48. Posted January 18, 2017 at 17:08 | Permalink | Reply

    Things that irritate me in SC

    – Items disappear quickly (if you die away from your home, when you get to the place that died the items will not be there any more) when that happens I pick up the items I lost in the creative because it is a bug

    – Die with 2 blocks high on the horse

    – Not being able to run

    – The day ends quickly.

    – Tired quickly

    • Posted January 18, 2017 at 19:57 | Permalink | Reply

      1. This is not a bug but intentional to make it challenging. You are not supposed to die and actually dying is normally quite serious in real life and should be regarded so in SC as well. It is so in MC as well.
      2. i know this is a bit frustrating and maybe the reason I stopped using horses, especially where there area lot of trees. It is realistic though as you can die when ride a horse and a tree branch hits you.
      3. You think you always run, since you can almost outrun (“outwalk”) a wolf.
      4. This is also to make it a bit more challenging.
      5. Again, to make that the game is not too easy. Usually you will only tire quickly when you run on sand or go uphill, without steps especially, as well as water. This is fairly realistic, as sand really tire you a lot. Maybe we could last a bit longer in water though. People can swim long distances. This makes the game a bit more challenging.

      My one frustration with Minecraft is that it is utterly, intensely, stupendously, way too easy.

      • Posted January 18, 2017 at 20:44 | Permalink | Reply

        Friend, being honest, I think there are several things on the list that the guy is right, I appreciate Kaaus, but there are things in the game that are unreasonably difficult, that the game is realistic does not mean that it is hardcore, sorry ffor my english

      • Posted January 19, 2017 at 01:01 | Permalink | Reply

        I did want longer days/nights so you wake up when the moon is setting and the sun is just barely rising, but you can make an alarm clock to wake up earlier.

        • Posted January 19, 2017 at 01:41 | Permalink

          Can you actually make an alarm clock to wake up earlier? This sounds ridiculous, but it sounds like it would be the kind of detail he’d add.

        • colbyfranknorth
          Posted January 19, 2017 at 03:47 | Permalink

          Maybe he should make it so that loud noises can wake you up, so that would be good fro sound generators but annoying for when there is, say, a wolf howling.

        • Posted January 19, 2017 at 12:56 | Permalink

          Yeah the werewolf alarm is what I used, just modified it some and attached a dispenser (Total cost: 10 germanium, like 5 copper~) Then has the dispenser shoot my character with a feather… it did something like .1 damage to my character’s health but woke right up as the sun was about to rise. I think after using it about 12 times or so it did mess with my character’s sleep pattern, but it screws up on it’s own anyway after 40-50 days…

        • Stanimus
          Posted January 20, 2017 at 18:25 | Permalink

          A daily alarm can be made a lot simpler than the werewolf alarm. I just realized that I didn’t add one to the wiki page:
          http://survivalcraftgame.wikia.com/wiki/Alarm_circuit

          I’ll add it shortly. I usually add an enable switch to it as well. Then it only goes off when you need it and won’t drain the dispenser while you’re away.

        • Stanimus
          Posted January 20, 2017 at 19:35 | Permalink

          (Can’t edit – yes, a daily alarm is almost identical to the were alarm. It’s now detailed on that wiki page…

        • Posted January 20, 2017 at 21:24 | Permalink

          Stanimus one little thing… How is your alarm “waking” your character? Also my alarm dispenses a feather once a day at dawn… A father, or a cotton ball… I can reuse the cotton ball/father daily! Drain the dispenser? Will it break after 30 days? Please tell me where I’m wrong, I love to learn.

        • Stanimus
          Posted January 20, 2017 at 21:38 | Permalink

          Justin, I did the same – have a dispenser shoot something little. Ivy, grass or snowballs are good since they regenerate. I add an enable switch because I often sleep different places. I’m afraid of constantly draining the dispenser while I’m away from the alarm a long time.

      • Posted January 19, 2017 at 01:39 | Permalink | Reply

        Minecraft is like any game really. It depends on how you play. If you are a simple farmer just trying to survive it’s going to be easy, but if you play more aggressive and don’t turn away from fights the game can very well screw you quickly. Just like Survivalcraft, if you just live on an ostrich farm you’ll never have problems, but if you like to travel at night you’ll be a dead man by morning.

        On a different note, I completely agree with you. These things need to stay in the game, except I think the survivor should be able to swim longer.

      • Posted January 20, 2017 at 18:19 | Permalink | Reply

        With clothes you cannot swim far easily. Maybe change it so without clothes you can swim much further? You’re correct about running on sand.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_Fire
        How do they do it so effortlessly?

    • Stanimus
      Posted January 19, 2017 at 01:37 | Permalink | Reply

      When you play using BUTTONS, you are always running. That’s why you get tired so quickly! Use the touchpad if you want to walk slower.
      I would agree with a longer day. But, it is what it is… And I often use an alarm clock. When you wake ‘naturally’, about 1/8 of the day has already passed.

  49. Posted January 18, 2017 at 19:53 | Permalink | Reply

    I had a question where do you put the sound files for survivalcraft I was trying to find it in the program but i didnt find anything and it works offline so where are they?

    • Posted January 19, 2017 at 12:59 | Permalink | Reply

      wait are you working with that program Kaalus gave everyone?

      • Posted February 13, 2017 at 21:45 | Permalink | Reply

        no I just thought it would be cool if i changed the sounds on the game so like when I get hurt it plays a sound thats like “You got hurt” or something like that

  50. Stanimus
    Posted January 20, 2017 at 00:22 | Permalink | Reply

    Although Kaalus didn’t encourage us to guess at this, it could very well help both creative and survival players and be – increased or even ‘unlimited’ height. That IS an assumption from day 1 and built into the chunks file format and likely the game code…

    • Posted January 20, 2017 at 12:53 | Permalink | Reply

      Yeah wanted to build a tower that reached above the clouds, but that dream died early on.

    • Posted January 20, 2017 at 13:59 | Permalink | Reply

      Simple but also a good thing…

      Hopefully it won’t cause the “classic” geometry limit grafical bug

      • Stanimus
        Posted January 20, 2017 at 18:27 | Permalink | Reply

        Somehow Block Story does it well. At least to +/-2000 blocks! Kaalus should be able to figure it out…

  51. Posted January 20, 2017 at 04:11 | Permalink | Reply

    It’s nice of kaalus to at least let us know why he is leaving this time.

    • Posted January 21, 2017 at 22:11 | Permalink | Reply

      He has been behaving strange lately, but not any more weird then normal.

  52. Posted January 20, 2017 at 12:40 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus,When will you be updated?

  53. Posted January 20, 2017 at 17:17 | Permalink | Reply

    My bug report on Lefora: No-urchins-and-starfish-when-raising-sea
    http://survivalcraft.lefora.com/topic/19407305/No-urchins-and-starfish-when-raising-sea#.WIJF5BvQecQ

  54. Posted January 21, 2017 at 12:27 | Permalink | Reply

    I have encountered a bug too. The wire I pit down will disappear will I walk away. Please fix this.

    • Posted January 21, 2017 at 13:20 | Permalink | Reply

      Don’t know about “disappear will I walk away.” but I know animals de-spawn sometimes (could be killed by lightning), also was the wire outside where lightning could have gotten it?

      • Posted January 21, 2017 at 16:23 | Permalink | Reply

        No, I close the weather effect, so no lightning. I hate lightning since it damage my buildings

        • Posted January 21, 2017 at 22:01 | Permalink

          Oh in creative mode… Well so sorry you had to go threw the menu again and get a new wire piece… Since you have let me count… an INFINITE supply of them! Could it be you broke the block where it was?, can you repeat this glitch? Did your little get near your computer/tablet?

  55. Posted January 21, 2017 at 17:30 | Permalink | Reply

    is that purple guy really kallus? I doubt he’s kalus. what’s kalus adding in 2.1, then?

    • Posted January 21, 2017 at 22:04 | Permalink | Reply

      I’m sure kaalus glances at this giant wish list from time to time, but he wouldn’t be post comments here… Otherwise he’d have banned half of the people repeatedly begging for new stuff every few days.

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