Tree Planting In Survival

In creative mode you can plant saplings anywhere (as long as it’s in dirt or grass) and they will grow almost instantly into trees, regardless of area.

Not so in survival. In survival trees are very picky and will only grow if the conditions are right and will take a very long time to do so (about one game day). Even if the conditions are perfect, they may still wither. Good advice: plant lots of saplings.

To help you with deciding where each tree is to be planted, I added a thermometer. I also wanted to add hygrometer, but I ran out of time for 1.13.

As some of you (especially those who meddled in the chunks.dat file) know, each place in the game has an associated humidity and temperature values. They determine what kind of plants and terrain get generated there and what is the shade of grass/water/leaves.

With a thermometer you can instantly tell what temperature it is at a given spot. The thermometer item has a scale made of 5 dots. Here’s the temperature value associated with each dot (starting from the bottom): 2, 5, 8, 11 and 14.

Here’s what temperatures trees like the most: Spruce 1.5, Birch 7.5, Oak 10.

All trees like humidity. The more the better, but because you don’t have a hygrometer yet you have to judge by color of grass (or abundance of other plants). The more juicy the green, the more humidity is in the area.

Happy planting once 1.13 arrives.

[EDIT] Thermometer looks like that:


  1. FanAs
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 18:02 | Permalink | Reply


  2. chanc3
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 18:24 | Permalink | Reply


  3. Posted July 10, 2012 at 19:56 | Permalink | Reply

    Do trees stop growing ot do they keep growing and never stop

    • Posted July 10, 2012 at 20:50 | Permalink | Reply

      One planted sapling = one tree

      • Sir Knight
        Posted July 10, 2012 at 21:44 | Permalink | Reply

        I am guessing he means height… BTW: excellent work bro.

  4. Humhead
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 21:58 | Permalink | Reply

    Sounds like a great update! Can’t wait.

  5. kevin m
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 22:09 | Permalink | Reply

    Nice, In the future could you make it like the mod for minecraft:nature overhaul, trees when their leaves break saplings automatically fall and plant themselves and the factors of their growth is the same that is in the game now

  6. kevin m
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 22:25 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus what about NPC’s? Did you see my posts in the 1.13 Release Post

    • Posted July 10, 2012 at 23:16 | Permalink | Reply

      Yep I’ve seen it. I’ve not yet decided what will be the main new thing in 1.14. So far I am doing lots of bugfixing. Among others ladder dismounting bug is gone :-)

      • Tiger
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 07:34 | Permalink | Reply

        Kaalus you could add electricity.

      • kevin m
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 23:59 | Permalink | Reply

        Hmmmmmm. What would you add with electricity. What items?

    • Jake From State Farm
      Posted July 11, 2012 at 20:29 | Permalink | Reply

      Npc’s would be awesome I would love it. Its kinda weird with a village with no people but yourself

      • Sir Knight
        Posted July 11, 2012 at 20:55 | Permalink | Reply

        It would not be very “survival-based” if they are a friendly NPCs. Unless kaalus wants to have the game become a “civilization builder” (spin-off maybe) It would not work…

    • kevin m
      Posted July 11, 2012 at 22:45 | Permalink | Reply

      No no, it could work like I said there could be bandits that are out in the wild, and in towns based on how you treat them that’s how they’ll treat you back and based on what I’ve seen other people would want NPCs too

      • Sir Knight
        Posted July 11, 2012 at 23:04 | Permalink | Reply

        I understand what you mean. I just do not see how that ties in with the “survival” theme. I am pretty sure it is supposed to be a “deserted island – err. Continent- type thing. But that is just my opinion.

      • Jake From State Farm
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 00:04 | Permalink | Reply

        Ya I like the idea Kevin m. +1

      • kevin m
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 00:50 | Permalink | Reply

        But I’m pretty sure your not the only person on the continent your on, there would be natives deep inland from the ocean. And if you really were the only person there that wouldn’t be realistic. You wouldn’t encounter any natives on a huge continent that’s bound to have people?

      • Sir Knight
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 02:17 | Permalink | Reply

        See, this is good, we are synergizing. Instead of just asking for NPCs, now we are offering detailed ideas to kaalus. I like that idea, groups of natives deep inland. But it would have to be a very long travel to see them. That way, it is the best of both ideas. But, I think a town would not be good. A collection of tents, huts, or yurts, nomad style, is better…

      • Sir Knight
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 02:19 | Permalink | Reply

        A settled town would, again, seem a bit off for this game.

      • kevin m
        Posted July 12, 2012 at 02:51 | Permalink | Reply

        I also agree about us having conversations about ideas and us “synergizing”. I also agree (again) about not actual towns and cities, huts and small villages would seem more realistic for the game.

  7. christian O
    Posted July 10, 2012 at 22:30 | Permalink | Reply

    how about a different means of quick movement for the next update. please its annoying trying to get to one place and back continuously. tell me what you think kaalus

    • Posted July 11, 2012 at 11:03 | Permalink | Reply

      In creative or survival mode?

      • christian O
        Posted July 11, 2012 at 12:31 | Permalink | Reply


    • Chris
      Posted July 11, 2012 at 14:44 | Permalink | Reply


      Warping is a good idea, but I’m also interested in others modes of transport for survival modes. If you added horses, we could tame and ride them.

  8. wolfsarescary
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 01:56 | Permalink | Reply

    U have done so much……. The thing that make it the best is npc’s….=)

  9. cg
    Posted July 11, 2012 at 02:18 | Permalink | Reply

    All this new stuff is cool in all but u made explosives and gun powder so ho can u not make guns.

  10. kevin m
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 02:13 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus if you don’t decide to add NPCs ( which I think would be the best option) could you add a fishing system, something less complicated code? It would be a useful to get food if all the animals in an area are killed ( which I will probably do) there could be certain circumstances on how you could catch fish, like the “water hole” has to be a large enough size for fish to live in?

    • kevin m
      Posted July 12, 2012 at 03:00 | Permalink | Reply

      Some thing with a less comicated code**

    • kevin m
      Posted July 12, 2012 at 03:01 | Permalink | Reply

      less complicated code* correction

    • kevin m
      Posted July 12, 2012 at 03:02 | Permalink | Reply

      Sorry for spam, phone glitched out

  11. chanc3
    Posted July 12, 2012 at 04:44 | Permalink | Reply

    An easy solution for faster means of travel could be a saddle. It canbe rode on with a bull. You should make it so it be cunstructed easily but difficult to capure and attach to a bull. this would save me loads of time

  12. kevin m
    Posted July 13, 2012 at 00:01 | Permalink | Reply

    What would you add with electricity? What items?

    • Posted July 13, 2012 at 00:31 | Permalink | Reply

      Wires, logic gates, various switches, a battery. Mostly for creative and adventure mode so that you can do intelligent mechanisms.

      • christian O
        Posted July 13, 2012 at 00:56 | Permalink | Reply

        Door switches could work and could you try adding beds but add domestic sheep

  13. CATZ RULE!!!!
    Posted July 14, 2012 at 17:06 | Permalink | Reply

    I thinkbits a bit strange crafting a sapling i mean i want it bur its just that in real life you cant make bayby trees. Im on a cruise ship now.

  14. steven
    Posted January 15, 2013 at 15:36 | Permalink | Reply

    Ok so I am standing in a untouched grove of trees. I grab some leaves and craft saplings. I then go around the same type of trees and plant saplings why do I get dead trees? Provided one takes how long till I got a full size tree?

    • Posted January 15, 2013 at 18:14 | Permalink | Reply

      The saplings need the following to grow into a tree:
      – space (if there’s anything blocking the way the sapling will wilt)
      – temperature (low for spruces, temperate for birches, high for oaks)
      – humidity (high for all the trees)
      If all the conditions are met, the tree should grow.

      • steven
        Posted January 15, 2013 at 22:02 | Permalink | Reply

        Ok since there are other trees nearby I would think the temp and humid are in check. How much space and what could be in the way? Working on flat open ground with grove of like trees.

  15. Elmas
    Posted April 17, 2013 at 09:55 | Permalink | Reply

    How i can craft thermometer?

  16. Hannnnnahhhhhh
    Posted July 4, 2013 at 18:58 | Permalink | Reply

    Kaalus, maybe for the next update could you add riding elephants, or bulls? Let me know what you are thinking.
    Thanks, so much!

  17. Posted January 24, 2015 at 07:08 | Permalink | Reply

    How do you plant one in survival mode though?

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