Animals persistence

Before I can do any interesting things with the animals (e.g. taming), I need to solve the problem that animals disappear forever as soon as you leave the area. They need to stay. A related issue is that it’s impossible to keep the animals out of any area at the moment. As soon as you leave and come back, it may happen that a new batch of animals spawn inside your well fenced off field.

I have thought about it for a long time and I think I have a solution. I will work on it soon, and you might see it in 1.13 if everything goes well.

The result will be that the animals only spawn once in a given area. After that, no more spawning. This also means that you will be able to kill all of them and see no more until you walk further away and herd some back.

Additionally, I may make them spawn again if you leave the area for a very long time.

27 Comments

  1. Yuvbin Trowld
    Posted June 18, 2012 at 23:18 | Permalink | Reply

    In that case, how easy would it be to factor in breeding? Like, if you had a herd of cows with a bull, could calves appear occasionally? That way Survivalman won’t have to choose between getting hungry and dying, and getting lost ;]

  2. Duxk
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 00:27 | Permalink | Reply

    Hmm.

    Not sure if that system would be better or not. In the long run it may make the world seem more lifeless.

    Also after you kill the animals around your home, what’s left to defend your home from?

    • pippyo03
      Posted June 19, 2012 at 00:33 | Permalink | Reply

      the wolfs would still come to your house just from little farther away

    • quasidart
      Posted June 19, 2012 at 01:07 | Permalink | Reply

      @Duxk:
      Hmm….yes and no. :-) I agree about animals overall; after the update that added animals, SC worlds felt much more alive & interactive in a way they hadn’t before. However, looking back at the real world (which Kaalus is trying to generally be true to): once you eliminate/displace the animals from an area, you’re usually safe from them for a long while. (Until they try to move back from another area, like undeveloped areas in the real world, or (say) other chunks in the game.) That’s one of the perks of investing time to develop one specific area — making it safe for the future, so you can focus on the next stage up from survival (say, stronger housing/shelter), then the next stage above that (cultivating land / livestock), then the next, and the next, etc.

      My take: Treat birds & land animals differently. Land animals tend not to travel long distances in a short time, and their motion is limited by the landscape; once they’re gone, it takes them a while to reestablish themselves. OTOH, birds fly halfway across the globe in a few months, can land anywhere, and (like SC’s birds) choose areas to stop based on the landscape / biome; you might see no birds on one day, then over a hundred the next day. Handling land animals vs. birds like that would give players a reason to invest in specific areas (more safety than being a pure nomad), while still making sure the world felt alive.

  3. maxs4297
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 00:48 | Permalink | Reply

    Here’s a better idea, possibly.
    Why not have cows only spawn near a special grass. The grass can spawn randomly in the world, with cows spawning near it. The grass itself could be harvested from the environment for seeds and grown in a field. This would make farming possible too.

    • reundeadified
      Posted June 19, 2012 at 05:23 | Permalink | Reply

      Do all this and it would be awesome. Farms would just be one more thing we could tend to and fortify, plus they would solve the problem of having to decide whether or not to kill your pet cows

  4. catz rule
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 05:15 | Permalink | Reply

    my sister just sat on a couch that my cats had pooped in beacuse my dad hadnt cleaned her litter box for 5 days!

    • epic2015
      Posted June 19, 2012 at 13:54 | Permalink | Reply

      Does that go with this topic??? Lol

    • Posted June 19, 2012 at 16:25 | Permalink | Reply

      that was a completely pointless post..

      • momo6913
        Posted June 19, 2012 at 18:05 | Permalink | Reply

        We aren’t on faceb**k lol

  5. catz rule
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 15:23 | Permalink | Reply

    i guess not but it was funny! this is y last day of shcool

  6. Posted June 19, 2012 at 17:38 | Permalink | Reply

    Like the idea keep up the good work kaalus

  7. ScSarth99
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 18:23 | Permalink | Reply

    If you do that then you will have to add sheep and wool

  8. Jriot10
    Posted June 19, 2012 at 18:42 | Permalink | Reply

    I’m not a fan of this at all I would prefer taming the animals and having a limit of up to two of each animal besides birds

    • emptymobile
      Posted June 20, 2012 at 02:45 | Permalink | Reply

      And what do you propose would be the method to taming the animals?

    • Jriot10
      Posted June 20, 2012 at 17:38 | Permalink | Reply

      Food

  9. DUCK ZUES
    Posted June 20, 2012 at 03:40 | Permalink | Reply

    Cool

  10. Posted June 20, 2012 at 16:06 | Permalink | Reply

    I’ve given you the Liebster Blog Award! http://aminutewithme.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/an-award-pour-moi-get-away/

  11. Jriot10
    Posted June 20, 2012 at 17:57 | Permalink | Reply

    On the windows phone summit I saw the survivalcraft app in the fountain they had made out of apps :)

  12. igarcia
    Posted April 4, 2013 at 00:32 | Permalink | Reply

    Tame animals who agrees
    S

    • Posted December 11, 2013 at 17:09 | Permalink | Reply

      If you would just read the entire post you will get your answer to why that can’t be done at the moment.

  13. Lawson
    Posted May 30, 2013 at 02:13 | Permalink | Reply

    Guys we need stuff lie breeding it would be helpful come on think minecraft i know this is survival craft but come on

  14. coolguy3000
    Posted July 6, 2013 at 00:10 | Permalink | Reply

    We need to have some type of thing that makes animals fight each other
    Like if a wolf attacks a cow the bull would chase them off

  15. coolguy3000
    Posted July 6, 2013 at 00:13 | Permalink | Reply

    We also need villagers

  16. Posted August 4, 2013 at 06:29 | Permalink | Reply

    I really like it when people come together and share views.
    Great website, keep it up!

  17. Posted January 1, 2015 at 03:02 | Permalink | Reply

    I know this is probably late and not related to the post, but do you think you could add special effects such as aurora borealis over cold biomes? It would be very interesting and maybe you could make it hard to reach as to give the player some type of goal to set if they find a cold biome large enough.

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